Particle in a box: commuting energy and momentum operators

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the energy operator and the momentum operator for a particle in an infinitely deep box. The energy operator is defined as the Hamiltonian operator H = p²/2m + V(x), while the momentum operator is p = -iħ dx. It is established that the commutator of the energy and momentum operators is zero, indicating they commute and share a common set of eigenfunctions. However, the eigenfunction A sin(kx) is identified as an eigenfunction of the Hamiltonian but not of the momentum operator, highlighting the distinction between commuting operators and their eigenstates.

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Hi,
I've been thinking about the following:
In an infinitely deep box a particle's energy operator can be written as E = p^2/2m, and the momentum operator as p = -i hbar dx. (particle moves in x direction)
I can see that the commutator of E and p is 0, so the operators commute, and should have a common set of eigenfunctions. But e.g. A sin(kx) with some A and k is an eigenfunction of E but not of p. I don't get where I'm going wrong.
Thanks for any answers!
 
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mel11 said:
[...] A sin(kx) with some A and k is an eigenfunction of E but not of p.
I don't get where I'm going wrong.

Try thinking instead about functions like [itex]e^{-ikx}[/itex] ... :-)

[Edit: Hmm, I suppose I should give a better hint. Think about
both sin(kx) and cos(kx). Do they have the same energy eigenvalue?
If so, you have a degenerate case, so the eigenfunctions of one
operator are in general a linear combination of the (degenerate)
eigenfunctions of the other.]
 
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Right. Commuting operators doesn't guarantee that all eigen states are the same. Only that there is a set of common eigen states.

And just for clarity, that isn't the energy operator. It's a Hamiltonian operator. Energy operator involves a time derivative.

[tex]H = \frac{p^2}{2m} + V(x)[/tex]

[tex]E = i \hbar \frac{d}{dt}[/tex]

With time-dependent Shroedinger Equation

[tex]H\Psi = E\Psi[/tex]
 

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