Particle in a box momentum uncertainty

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The discussion revolves around a particle in an infinite potential well, focusing on calculating uncertainties in position and momentum, as well as the implications of changing the dimensions of the well on the particle's state. Participants are exploring concepts related to quantum mechanics, specifically wave functions and energy states.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss calculating the variances of wave functions for position and momentum, with some uncertainty about the momentum's variance and its relation to the uncertainty principle. Others raise questions about transitioning between states when the potential well's dimensions change, particularly regarding the probabilities of finding the particle in new energy states.

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Some participants have made progress in calculating variances for the wave functions, while others express confusion about the next steps, particularly in determining probabilities after a change in the potential well. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the original state in terms of the new eigenstates, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in quantifying probabilities after a sudden change in the system.

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this is for a particle in a box (infinite potential well):
For the wave functions calculate (as a function of n)
[tex]\Delta[/tex]x
[tex]\Delta[/tex]p
[tex]\Delta[/tex]x[tex]\Delta[/tex]p

Homework Equations


h = h bar below

u+n(x)=(1/[tex]\sqrt{a}[/tex] )cos((n-1/2)(pi)x/a)
u-n(x)=(1/sqrt{a})sin(n(pi)x/a)
E-n=h2/(2m)(n(pi)/a)2
E+n=h2/(2m)((n-1/2)(pi)/a)2

The Attempt at a Solution


ok i think the Delta x is easy, just find the variance of u+n(x)2 and u-n(x)2 as a function of n (correct me if i am wrong)

where i am lost is on the momentum, i can obviously get it from the energy but i don't see how to determine its variance or even how it would change within one state. i would just use the uncertainty principle but that seems to be what they want you to show in the next step (also it is an inequality not an exact equation)

thanks for any help and sorry if this is an absurd question, it has been awhile since i have done any of this sort of stuff.
 
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Find [itex]\langle \hat{p}^2 \rangle[/itex] where

[tex]\hat{p} = \frac{\hbar}{i}\frac{\partial}{\partial x}[/tex]
 
Ok, I think I figured out the first part described above, although I can't seem to make the numbers come out right.

I am lost on the next problem, even more so than the last.

My well currently has walls at +/- a and a particle is in the ground state. the walls are suddenly moved to +/- b with b>a,
what is the probability the particle will be in ground state of new potential? & what is probability of the particle being in first excited state?

i realize the ground state of the new potential has less energy so the particle is more likely to be at a higher state than it was in the old potential but i have no idea how to make it quantitive and get the exact probabilities. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
 
Vaal said:
My well currently has walls at +/- a and a particle is in the ground state. the walls are suddenly moved to +/- b with b>a,
what is the probability the particle will be in ground state of new potential? & what is probability of the particle being in first excited state?

i realize the ground state of the new potential has less energy so the particle is more likely to be at a higher state than it was in the old potential but i have no idea how to make it quantitive and get the exact probabilities. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
Let the particle be in the state [itex]|\psi\rangle[/itex] and let [itex]|\phi_n\rangle[/itex] for n=1, 2, 3, … denote the eigenstates of the new Hamiltonian. You can express [itex]|\psi\rangle[/itex] in terms of the new eigenstates:

[tex]|\psi\rangle = c_0|\phi_0\rangle + c_1|\phi_1\rangle + \cdots[/tex]

where the cn's are constants, possibly complex. You need to find what the cn's are for n=0 and n=1. The probability of finding the particle in a particular state is equal to the modulus squared of the corresponding constant.
 

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