Particle Motion in Homogenous Gravitational and Electrical Fields

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a charged particle in a homogeneous gravitational and electrical field. Participants are exploring the implications of these forces on the particle's trajectory, particularly questioning the nature of its path and the effects of the forces involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the potential paths of the particle, questioning why certain routes may not be viable. There is consideration of the relative strengths of gravitational and electrical forces, as well as the implications of the particle's charge. Some participants attempt to derive equations for the particle's motion and explore the relationship between displacement and time.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and asking clarifying questions. Some have offered equations related to the motion of the particle, while others are engaged in plotting the relationship between the x and y displacements. There is a sense of progress as participants refine their understanding of the problem.

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Participants note the assumption of a homogeneous field and the potential neglect of gravitational force for subatomic particles. There is also mention of the particle's negative charge, which influences its behavior in the electrical field.

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http://prntscr.com/6d250v Hello, ignore the greek language. It says that this particle is in a homogenous gravitational and electrical field (from left to right the letters are a,b,c,d,e)

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the question is: Which is the most likely route it'll follow?

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i cannot understand why it cannot be the b.), I suppose its due to the gravity and the Force cause they stay constant thus it won't move in a parabolic orbit but in a straight line..However i learned that in a electrical field between 2 bars where we ignore the gravitational field the particle moves in a parabolic way...i think I am missing something...
 
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If the particle is subatomic, I would have thought you would be permitted to ignore the gravitational force, since this is absolutely tiny. However, all the options have a downward component, so I guess not. The left/right direction depends on the charge of the particle, and remember that gravity and the E field will both cause an acceleration through Newton's second law. But one is (much) stronger than the other, so think about how that would affect the shape.
 
It's my mistake i didnt mention. The particle has negative charge. I suppose that it's an electron..The answer says its C ( γ) in the picture
 
anyone? :)
 
What can you say about each of the gravitational and electrical accelerations? Given that the fields are homogeneous.
 
they are constant?
 
Yes. Can you write the equations for the x and y displacements? Assuming acceleration g in the y direction and a in the x-direction?
 
Assuming the particle has no initial velocity. ## y=\dfrac{1}{2}gt^2 ## and ## x=\dfrac{1}{2}at^2 ## where from the ## F=E|q| ## ##<=> #### a=\dfrac{E|q|}{m}##
 
Why are the equations different? ##t^2## in one and ##t## in another?
 
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sorry i didnt notice i was thinking about velocity
 
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Okay. Now plot x against y on a graph.
 
  • #12
if i did this right in a straight line where it starts from the beginning of the axes
 
  • #13
It would be a straight line, yes.
 
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i got it now :) thank you very much for your time
 

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