Particle Swarm Optimization vs. Newton's Method

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of Particle Swarm Optimization (PSO) and Newton's Method in the context of solving various optimization problems, including linear programming (LP), quadratic programming (QP), and support vector machines (SVM). Participants explore the effectiveness and applicability of these methods under different problem conditions.

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  • One participant notes that PSO may be effective when gradient methods, such as Newton's method, fail, particularly in cases where functions are not differentiable or are noisy.
  • Another participant suggests that different optimization problems possess varying levels of structure, implying that the choice of method should leverage the specific characteristics of the problem.
  • It is proposed that for convex problems, convex optimization techniques are preferable, while tightly coupled unknowns might benefit from decomposition methods.
  • Participants discuss that methods like PSO and evolutionary algorithms are considered black-box approaches, relying solely on function evaluations without leveraging problem structure, which may lead to slower convergence.
  • A question is raised about the strategy to adopt when faced with a situation that does not fit existing methods, prompting thoughts on iterating through methods or developing extended heuristics.

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Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of PSO compared to Newton's method, with no consensus reached on which method is superior overall. The discussion highlights that the suitability of each method may depend on specific problem characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the performance of optimization methods can vary significantly based on the structure of the problem, the presence of derivatives, and other factors, but do not resolve the implications of these dependencies.

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I have been reading Stephen Boyd's book Convex Optimization and I have learned to form various problems like LP, QP, QCQP, SOCP or SDPs. I also learned about formulating SVM for classification problem as optimization problem.

Now I am reading about Gradient Methods, Newton's method, etc. which would be used to solve the above mentioned problems.

However, I just came across Particle Swarm Optimization (PSO). So, it makes me wonder whether PSO is as good and effective in solving the above problem types? Does it perform as well as Newton's method? Does anyone have some experience with this?

Thanks
 
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It depends on the specifics, Particle Swarm Optimization can be useful when Gradient Methods fail. For example when the function is not differentiable or not well behaved, noisy and so on. Each method will be good at solving certain instances and not as good at others.
 
Q: so if you have an array of methods, each well suited to certain conditions and you come onto a situation that is not an a priori fit for your existing methods what do you do?

Iterate through methods? I hope not. Develop extended heuristics? I would really like to know.

Thanks.
 
Different optimization problems have different levels of structure. As a broad principle, you want to use a method that takes advantage of as much structure from your problem as possible.

For convex problems, it's good to use convex optimization techniques.

If the unknowns are separated into groups, where the unknowns are very tightly coupled within each group but loosely coupled between groups, then you probably want to use some sort of decomposition method to split the problem up into smaller pieces.

If your problem has an easily computed derivative, use a gradient-type method that takes advantage of it.

If your problem has 2 derivatives, Newton-type methods will do well since they use Hessian information.

etc.. etc..

Things like particle swarm methods, evolutionary algorithms, simulated annealing, etc, are basically black-box. All they use is function evaluation, and they make no assumptions about the special structure of the problem you're solving. As a result, they will work on a wider class of problems where other methods fail, but probably will converge much slower.
 
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