Perceptions of Disparate Fields of Interest

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The discussion centers on the perceived divide between the arts and sciences, with participants sharing experiences of straddling both worlds. A musician and mathematician highlights the misunderstandings between these fields, noting that artists often view scientists as lacking creativity, while scientists may see artists as lacking intelligence or rigor. This dichotomy leads to stereotypes that undervalue the skills and contributions of each discipline. Participants argue that both arts and sciences require creativity and technical skill, and that education should incorporate both to foster a more well-rounded understanding of human experience. They emphasize the importance of recognizing the value of both fields in society, advocating for a more integrated approach in education that encourages creativity alongside scientific inquiry. The conversation also touches on the societal pressures that shape perceptions of success in these fields, suggesting that a balanced appreciation of both arts and sciences could enhance cognitive growth and innovation.
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Evo said:
But curiosity and imagination are not art. To say that curiosity about science is in any way connected to art leaves me drawing a blank. People can make all sorts of connections that in reality do not exist. I was just pointing out the error in that quote.

Just because some people that do science also have talent in some aspect of the arts does not mean that the two are in any way dependent on each other.

I don't see any dependency between arts and science. I think it is bit too wishy washy to see connections between science and arts. But I do see dependency of humans on both arts and science.
 
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Need creates a portion of science, more especially in medicine I expect, but art often prompts stones to be turned that may be left unturned. Art is often a conduit of ideas that inspire curiosity and further imagination. Without the likes of Jules Verne or Isaac Asimov, we may still be years from going into space or robotics. There is a definite disconnect in many respects, but there are also connections which prompt curiosity and imagination. Perhaps they do not need each other, in the sense that each would arrive at where they are at without the other, but if the pace of advancement is part of the equation, then "need" takes on extra meaning.
 
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narrator said:
I've left the world of consulting behind. I went back and did it part time for a while but decided I'd had enough, despite the wonderful $$. The thing I enjoyed about it was, being creative - creating networks, intranets, environments that enhanced business needs. I also enjoyed giving the client knowledge and control over their environment - unlike many in the game who over complicate things, making the client dependent on them.

I enjoyed the training side so much that I got my teaching qual's and now teach. I train people in certificate courses in IT, but also spend a lot of time at a community school for disconnected teens, the ones who feel alienated by the high school system or have conformity issues. The pay is not good, but it's far more rewarding than anything I've done in 30+ years of working.

That's far more important. I'm glad to see you're doing well. Keep up the good work! I'm sure, even if they don't show it all the time, all the kids you spend time with appreciate your talents.
 
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kings7 said:
That's far more important. I'm glad to see you're doing well. Keep up the good work! I'm sure, even if they don't show it all the time, all the kids you spend time with appreciate your talents.
Yes, it does get challenging at times. Thank you for the encouraging words. :smile:
 
  • #55
rootX said:
I don't see any dependency between arts and science. I think it is bit too wishy washy to see connections between science and arts. But I do see dependency of humans on both arts and science.

Indeed, the quote seems to be directly dependent on the notion of arts and science in terms of the human experience. What I mean is I believe the author of the quote meant it more as humans needing both, not so much the two needing each other.

If the two needed each other, then we wouldn't have a cognitive division of "arts" and "sciences".

But I also disagree you with and Evo slightly. I would view them more as two circles of a diagram overlapping slightly. Each with its distinct purposes and intent, do every once in a while stimulate and support each other.

If we were to homogenize them into one thing, it would probably look something like "art + science = life". Not a single human can live sanely without both. If you think you can live without science, well, you shouldn't be using a computer to respond to this message. If you think you can live without art, well then you should put away all music, video games, movies, books, and a multitudinous number of other things and never look, listen, play, or use them again. I don't think anyone would last one day (minus the days in graduate school where you spend 16 hours writing proofs and/or in the lab. that's a little different lol).
 

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