Periodic spiral graph interpretation

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of a periodic spiral graph presented in a New York Times article, focusing on its geometry, the non-uniform variation of radial distance, and the symmetry about the centerline. Participants explore the implications of these features in the context of data visualization.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the geometry of the graph, particularly why the radial distance varies non-uniformly, noting that the distance from the origin to November 2020 is much larger than from November 2020 to November 2021.
  • There is a suggestion that the graph is spiral rather than merely polar, with the radial distance varying to accommodate bulging sections.
  • Participants discuss the symmetry about the centerline, with some proposing it may be a design choice without significant meaning, while others challenge this view.
  • One participant notes that the width of the path represents daily cases, while the angle indicates time in the year, suggesting the distance to the origin lacks significance.
  • There are observations about potential non-symmetries in the graph, with some attributing these to a hand-drawn appearance and others questioning whether these are true asymmetries or optical illusions.
  • Comparisons are made to an Archimedean spiral, with one participant suggesting that shifting the graph could yield a closer fit.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about achieving a perfect fit for the graph's shape, indicating the complexity of the task.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the interpretation of the graph's features, particularly concerning symmetry and the significance of radial distance. No consensus is reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of the graph's design choices and the mathematical properties of the spiral. There are references to potential optical illusions and the challenges of accurately modeling the graph's shape.

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Is this graph spiral or merely polar?
Could someone explain the geometry of this graph?
  • Why does the radial distance vary non-uniformly? To-wit: Distance from origin to Nov 2020 is much larger than Nov 2020 to Nov 2021
  • Why are there two areas - one above and one below - the centre line?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/06/opinion/omicron-covid-us.html

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DaveC426913 said:
Summary:: Is this graph spiral or merely polar?

Could someone explain the geometry of this graph?
  • Why does the radial distance vary non-uniformly? To-wit: Distance from origin to Nov 2020 is much larger than Nov 2020 to Nov 2021
It's spiral, and the only reason for doing it this way is to convey the information in less space than a linear graph would take. The radial distance varies, I believe, to leave room for the bulging sections.
DaveC426913 said:
Why are there two areas - one above and one below - the centre line?
To display the data for 1) Apr to Oct of 2020, and 2) for Apr to Oct of 2021.

Don't overthink this...
 
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Mark44 said:
To display the data for 1) Apr to Oct of 2020, and 2) for Apr to Oct of 2021.

Don't overthink this...
No, I mean why is it symmetrical about the centerline? This is common in graphs that differentiate gender - having male on one side and female on the other, but I doubt that the case here.
 
Mark44 said:
The radial distance varies, I believe, to leave room for the bulging sections.
Except it doesn't do that. :))
 
DaveC426913 said:
No, I mean why is it symmetrical about the centerline?
I think that is just a decision that the graph-maker made. It may have no significance at all, except that someone thought the graph looked better that way (and I tend to agree).
 
DaveC426913 said:
No, I mean why is it symmetrical about the centerline?
Because that's how the person who made the graph wanted it.
DaveC426913 said:
Except it doesn't do that. :))
Sure it does -- look how fat the sections for January are.

Again, don't overthink this.
 
Mark44 said:
Sure it does -- look how fat the sections for January are.
Yet the biggest gap between 2020 and 2021 is in October.Anyway, I grant your point. So much visualization opportunity lost. I will just have to out this rendering down as an affront to the god of graphs.
 
It's weird. The width of the path is the daily cases, the angle is the time in the year, the distance to the origin seems to have no significance.
 
IMO, it looks like some intern at the NYT had way too much time on their hands, and basically hand-drew a graph to try to visualize the data. There are clear non-symmetries that suggest the hand-drawn aspect. Whatever.

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berkeman said:
There are clear non-symmetries that suggest the hand-drawn aspect.
Are you sure that's an asymmetry? The curve on the bottom will have will appear to have an amplified amplitude, because its ... er ... x-axis is compressed.

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DaveC426913 said:
Are you sure that's an asymmetry? The curve on the bottom will have will appear to have an amplified amplitude, because its ... er ... x-axis is compressed.
Whelp, if I were an intern trying out different graphing schemes and saw that apparent misinformation in my graph, I'd change to a single-sided representation... Interns, kids, what'cha going to do...
 
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I added an analysis, above.
 
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Wait, so YOU are the intern?
 
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berkeman said:
Wait, so YOU are the intern?
What? No.
I just Photoshopped the diagram.

When you see the lines that are perpendicular to the curve, the asymmetry disappears.

These circles are centred on the central black line. Their radii touch both red curves. So upper and lower red curves are symmetrical about the black central line.

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mfb said:
It's weird. The width of the path is the daily cases, the angle is the time in the year, the distance to the origin seems to have no significance.
Comparing their graph to an Archimedean spiral(r = aθ + b), I found that if I shift their graph to the right by ≈58 pixels, it comes out pretty close.

NYT x shifted 58 pixels 2022-01-07 at 9.34.45 PM.png
 
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OmCheeto said:
Comparing their graph to an Archimedean spiral(r = aθ + b), I found that if I shift their graph to the right by ≈58 pixels, it comes out pretty close.
Huh. I guess the asymmetry of the spiral is also an optical delusion.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Huh. I guess the asymmetry of the spiral is also an optical delusion.
Possibly. I notice that if I fiddle with the constants for the Archimedean spiral, I get an even closer fit, and an apparent stretching in the quadrant 1 and 3 directions displays itself.

NYT covid spiral 2022-01-08 at 1.05.25 PM.png

I'm not sure I've ever smooshed something diagonally, mathematically.
I might be able to get a perfect fit, if I can figure that out.
Off the top of my head, it looks like a pain in the butt.
I could rotate everything 45° counter clockwise and then smoosh it in the y direction.
Perhaps I'll try googling this for a better method. My brain is just too old.
 
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Sunuvagun. I would not have believed it if I hadn't seen it.
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I think two things threw me.
1. There's a missing quadrant:
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2.
The slope varies wildly along the slope.
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