Perpetual motion through magnetized water?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of achieving perpetual motion through the use of magnetized water mixed with ferromagnetic metals and copper coils. Participants unanimously conclude that perpetual motion is impossible due to the laws of thermodynamics, specifically the conservation of energy. The process described, involving heating water to steam and condensing it, would always result in energy loss, primarily due to resistance in electrical components. The forum rules explicitly prohibit discussions on perpetual motion, reinforcing the consensus that such concepts violate fundamental physical laws.

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  • Understanding of thermodynamics, specifically the laws of energy conservation.
  • Familiarity with ferromagnetic materials and their properties.
  • Knowledge of electrical resistance and its impact on energy transfer.
  • Basic principles of electromagnetism and how coils generate electricity.
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  • Research the laws of thermodynamics, focusing on energy conservation and entropy.
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This discussion is beneficial for physicists, electrical engineers, and anyone interested in understanding the limitations of energy systems and the principles governing perpetual motion concepts.

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if you mixed water with a feromagnetic metal and then ran it through permanent magnets (giving it a charge or allign it correctly) , then heated it up into stem and ran it through a coil of copper wire (in some way as to cause electrons to flow). waited for it to condensate (perhaps using the enviornment) and re-ran the cycle.

could you produce enough electricity to keep everything perpetually moving? remember, there are no moving parts. just electricity moving.
 
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No. Energy is always conserved. Perpetual motion is forbidden both by the laws of nature and the rules of this forum.
 
The energy to turn the water to steam and get it back to the top of whatever it is running down (presumably a pipe?) would outweigh any energy you get out of the system.

If you could utilise all the energy given out by a system all you would be able to do is reset it to it's original set up, if you want to extract energy to do work the system looses energy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
 
DaleSpam said:
Perpetual motion is forbidden both by the laws of nature and the rules of this forum.

I don't know if you went for comedy with that, but it made me chuckle! :smile:

@avolaster: Do you realize electricity also encounters resistance?
 
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