PhD in Physics: Is Genius Required? - 16-Year-Old Asks

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The discussion centers around the question of whether one needs to be a genius to pursue a PhD in physics, particularly from the perspective of a 16-year-old student passionate about the subject. Participants explore the effort required to succeed in physics and the potential career paths following a degree and PhD.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their intelligence in relation to pursuing a PhD in physics, questioning if genius is a requirement.
  • Another participant cites Einstein's perspective that success in physics relies more on effort than innate genius, suggesting that hard work can lead to learning physics.
  • Some participants argue that sustained interest and effort are crucial, referencing the "10000 hours" rule for becoming an expert.
  • There is a discussion about the subjective nature of worth regarding the effort put into a physics degree and the potential career outcomes.
  • Participants mention that a Bachelor’s degree in physics can lead to various paths, including further education or entry into the job market, but emphasize that a PhD can open more academic opportunities.
  • Some participants note that the job prospects after a PhD depend on the specialization chosen, with some fields being more applicable to industry than others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that genius is not a strict requirement for pursuing a PhD in physics, but there is no consensus on the subjective value of the effort involved or the specific career paths available after obtaining a degree.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific examples of career outcomes based on different specializations at the PhD level and the subjective nature of worth regarding educational efforts.

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I am 16 with a passion for physics, I am not by any means a genius but I am good at physics and best in the year (based on results). I've read on degree choices that a degree in physics is like a VIP pass to jobs as it shows you can think logically etc.
some people in my class underestimate how hard being a doctor is but I am worried about if I'm clever enough to do a physics degree then a Phd. So my question is do you have to be a genius to do a Phd in physics or could I aim for it?
 
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I think that it was Einstein that said in reference to doing Physics, " it is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration". If you are willing and able to but in the effort you can learn physics.
 
Rinnn62 said:
a degree in physics is like a VIP pass to jobs

So my question is do you have to be a genius to do a Phd in physics or could I aim for it?

1.) Not really.

2.) You won't know until you try, and by try I mean work hard and remain interested for a sustained length of time. The "10000 hours" argument to become an expert in something comes to mind.
 
So what in asking is, I love the subject but would it be worth it to put that much effort in? As in what could I do after?
 
Worth is entirely subjective, that is up to you to decide.

After a BS, you can continue your education with a MSc in a related or unrelated field and you would be fairly competitive in the job market. Or get a phd. Just a BS isn't really a solid plan.
 
The ultimate aim is to get a Phd and I was just wondering if that would be possible. Question before was asking what jobs would this lead me to?
 
Rinnn62 said:
The ultimate aim is to get a Phd and I was just wondering if that would be possible.

You don't have to be a 1 in a 100 million genius, if that is what you're asking.

Go to webpages like APS and AIP's job register to see where phd holders and BS/MS holders end up working in the US.
 
Rinnn62 said:
Question before was asking what jobs would this lead me to?

It depends on what you specialize in at the PhD level. Some specializations are more translatable into industry work while others are strictly academic. Academia is an option with a PhD no matter the specialization.
 

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