Philosophy in The Elegant Universe

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The discussion revolves around the integration of Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe" into a Literature and Philosophy class as an independent reading project. The participant highlights the philosophical aspects of the book, particularly the aesthetic appreciation of Einstein's theory of general relativity. Additionally, comparisons are drawn between "The Elegant Universe" and Greene's other work, "The Fabric of the Cosmos," which is perceived as more philosophical. The conversation also touches on the challenges of engaging with complex scientific literature and the excitement of a broad educational experience.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic philosophical concepts, particularly aesthetics.
  • Familiarity with string theory and its implications in modern physics.
  • Knowledge of key historical figures in philosophy, such as Democritus and Leucippus.
  • Ability to analyze non-fiction texts, especially in the context of science popularization.
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  • Explore the philosophical implications of string theory in "The Elegant Universe."
  • Research the aesthetic principles in scientific theories, particularly in the works of Einstein.
  • Read "The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene for a deeper philosophical perspective.
  • Investigate the historical context of atomism as proposed by Democritus and Leucippus.
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Students in literature and philosophy courses, educators seeking interdisciplinary teaching methods, and anyone interested in the philosophical dimensions of modern scientific theories.

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I have convinced my english teacher to let me use The Elegant Universe as an independent reading novel for my Literature and Philosophy class. (As a sidenote, this is really exciting to me because now my entire day (except for band) is science/math: AP Chem, teacher's assistant during AP Chem second hour, Lit and Philosophy, AP Calculus, AP Physics)

Now all i need is some examples of philosophy in the book :wink:

I've got at least one:

aesthetic: einstein more or less knew his theory of general relativity was correct because of its beauty

any other contributions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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BTW, although there are some who might agree with the description of The Elegant Universe as a novel, it isn't really intended to be one. :biggrin: A novel is a piece of book-length fiction. Elegant Universe is nonfiction - science popularization.
 
I considered Greene's The Fabric of the Cosmos to be more philosophical than The Elegant Universe. Is there any reason why you couldn't use that book instead?
 
String theorists' contention that there are indivisible strings is comparable to the atomism of Democritus and Leucippus. Shouldn't this be in the homework section?
 
one of the reasons i was kind of excited about getting to use the book for an independent novel is because it isn't really a novel...exactly as you put it, selfAdjoint. i wonder how the book can be a national bestseller though when a very small percentage of the world cares about science, an even smaller percent buys science books, and very few have the patience and time to read such a difficult book (compared to harry potter etc, not necessarily other science "novels").

Chronon, i went to Barnes and Nobel today to buy the fabric... and they didn't have a hardcover (i want it to match my other Greene book). they ordered it for me and i will have it on wednesday. the only problem will be finishing it in time. i am 85% sure i will have another independent reading project next quarter, so i could do BOTH (assuming my teacher likes what i do with my first project).

skomatth, i see your point about hw, but from what i recall, the homework forum is more like "how do i solve this calculus problem." i'd much rather go straight to the source, but i wouldn't be too mad if an admin moved the thread. i will check out Democritus and Leucippus once we really get started in class.

i would appreciate further examples...

thank you all.
 
Jeremy said:
(As a sidenote, this is really exciting to me because now my entire day (except for band) is science/math: AP Chem, teacher's assistant during AP Chem second hour, Lit and Philosophy, AP Calculus, AP Physics)

Nothing like expanding your mind and getting a broad education, eh?

Note: I realize that, to get anywhere in the scientific world, one must be narrow and focused, so I say this somewhat facetiously.
 
loseyourname said:
Nothing like expanding your mind and getting a broad education, eh?

Note: I realize that, to get anywhere in the scientific world, one must be narrow and focused, so I say this somewhat facetiously.

I have actually taken social studies/history all four years. this year, however, i took government for four hours a day over the summer so i could make room for AP chem II. little did i know, french 4 was the same hour as AP physics II, and we see which won that battle. Next semester Lit and Philosophy is replaced by Shakespeare. Even though i tout the science i get to do in Philosophy this semester, I still have to write 4 papers a quarter and have to read confusing Plato.

so that's my story.

more examples please.
 

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