Photon Absorption wavelength(s) to aid ionization?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the optimal wavelengths of photons for aiding the ionization of atoms in a high voltage field. Participants explore various approaches to enhance ionization efficiency through photon energy, considering both resonant and non-resonant wavelengths, as well as the role of external electric fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the shortest wavelength available might be the best for ionization efficiency.
  • Another participant proposes three methods for starting a discharge: using resonance photons to excite atoms, using photons with energies slightly above the ionization energy, or using X-rays.
  • A participant questions whether UV light at 370nm would contribute more to ionization than resonant excitation wavelengths longer than 450nm, given its higher energy.
  • Another participant agrees that UV light could enhance ionization, particularly in the presence of an external electric field, referencing the effect of electric arc light on air ionization.
  • One participant provides information on photoionization cross sections, noting that they are typically maximum at threshold energy but may increase slightly above it, and mentions the availability of a table of elements sorted by ionization energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of resonant versus UV wavelengths for ionization, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific energy thresholds and cross sections, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these factors on ionization efficiency.

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If I have a group of atoms in a high voltage field, and I want to use photon energy to aid the ionization of the atoms what wavelength(s) would best be used to have the highest ionization efficiency?

The shortest wavelength available?

Or the resonant wavelength for each excitation level?
 
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If you want to start a discharge with help of initial "ignition" with photons, there might be different possibilities:

1) You excite atoms with available source of resonance photons and the high-voltage electric field ionizes more easily the excited atoms,

2) You use photons with energies a little bit higher than the ionization energy (the maximum of photo-ionization is reached not at Eptoton = Eionization but at higher energies),

3) You use X-rays for that.
 
Good answer!

Lets say I only have 2 choices:

1. I can use the resonant excitation wavelengths (we'll say they are all longer than 450nm)

2. Or i can use UV at 370nm

Wouldn't the UV contrubute more to the ionization than the resonant excitation wavelengths since the UV is shorter (higher energy)?
 
HMS-776 said:
Good answer!

Lets say I only have 2 choices:

1. I can use the resonant excitation wavelengths (we'll say they are all longer than 450nm)

2. Or i can use UV at 370nm

Wouldn't the UV contrubute more to the ionization than the resonant excitation wavelengths since the UV is shorter (higher energy)?

Yes, I think so, especially in presence of an external electric field. It is known that the light from electric arc makes charged body discharge due to air ionization with UV light.
 
Most individual atom photoionization cross sections are in the 10 Mb (megabarn)(1 Mb = 1 x 10^-18 cm^2) range. See
http://xdb.lbl.gov/Section1/Sec_1-5.html
Usually, the cross section is maximum at threshold, but sometimes it may increase slightly a few eV above threshold. In most cases, the cross section is nearly a factor of 10 lower by 50 eV.
[Edit] You might find this table of elements sorted by ionization energy handy:
http://www.science.co.il/PTelements.asp?s=ionization
Bob S
 
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