Photon & Electron: Photoelectric & Compton Effects

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The discussion centers on the mechanisms of the photoelectric effect and Compton effect, both of which involve photon interactions with electrons. The photoelectric effect occurs when a photon with sufficient energy excites an electron in a solid, allowing it to escape, while the Compton effect involves the scattering of photons off electrons, demonstrating conservation of energy and momentum. Participants emphasize the necessity of a solid understanding of quantum mechanics and energy bands in solids to grasp these phenomena fully. Additionally, the limitations of Wikipedia as a reliable source for these complex topics are highlighted, with suggestions for further reading in quantum field theory.

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PeterDonis said:
But that's the problem: this "rough" description is too rough, because it leaves out all the quantum mechanics. Even at a heuristic level, the interaction is not properly described as one photon and one electron "colliding", because, in perturbative QFT terms:

(a) The lowest level Feynman diagram for this process has two vertexes, not one (since each vertex connects only three lines, the incoming/outgoing electron lines and the photon line, so to get a full diagram with a photon line coming in and a photon line going out, you need two vertexes);

(b) Making correct predictions about the actual experimental data requires more than just the lowest level Feynman diagram.

And, of course, Feynman diagrams are not really direct descriptions of processes happening in spacetime anyway. (For one thing, they're usually analyzed in momentum space.)
No doubt about it. Not that I know QFT like physicists, but there is no good classical analog to this interaction.

However, I believe that jeremyfiennes thinks there is only one type of fundamental interaction, which we need to clarify that it's not.
 
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