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The discussion centers on the relationship between electric and magnetic fields and the representation of photons in string theory. Participants explore the theoretical implications of associating these fields with vibrating strings and how this aligns with concepts from quantum electrodynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that electric and magnetic fields can be associated with the vibrating string representing a photon in string theory.
  • Another participant explains that in quantum electrodynamics, charged particles emit and absorb virtual photons, which can be related to excitations of the electromagnetic field, indicating a duality in describing these phenomena.
  • The same participant proposes that a photon corresponds to a specific type of string configuration, such as an open string attached to a brane, and discusses how electron-type strings could emit photon-type strings.
  • There is a mention of the Born-Infeld equation as a framework for understanding the vibrations of the electromagnetism brane and its relation to Maxwell's equations.
  • A question is raised regarding the nature of the fields involved, specifically whether they pertain to real or virtual particles, and the distinction between virtual photons and field modes.
  • A clarification is made that virtual particles and virtual field mode excitations are two perspectives on the same underlying concept in quantum field theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of fields associated with virtual photons and the implications of string theory for understanding electromagnetic interactions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of these associations and the definitions of the fields involved.

Contextual Notes

There are ambiguities regarding the definitions of fields and the nature of virtual particles, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The relationship between string theory and established electromagnetic theories is also not fully settled.

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Is it possible to associate electric and magnetic fields with the vibrating string that is thought to represent a photon in string theory?

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It works the same as in quantum electrodynamics. There, if you have some configuration of charged particles (e.g. electrons and protons), they will be emitting and absorbing virtual photons, or causing excitations of modes of the electromagnetic field - in a quantum field theory, virtual particles and field mode excitations are just two ways of talking about the same thing - and saying that a point in space has a certain density of virtual photons, or a certain average level of field activity, gives you the electric and/or magnetic field strengths at that point, and therefore also gives you the force that will be experienced by a charged object at that point.

In a string model of physics, a photon will correspond to a particular type of string, like an open string with both ends attached to a particular brane; and for another type of string to count as electromagnetically charged, it has to be capable of emitting the photon type of string. So that could be an open string with one end attached to the "electromagnetism brane", and the other end attached to a different brane, like the "electron flavor brane". That would be an electron type of string, and if the end of that string attached to the "electromagnetism brane" budded off a new string which was attached at both ends to the "electromagnetism brane", that would be an electron-string emitting a photon-string.

Once you have that, everything works as before. The electron-string stretches between the electromagnetism brane and the electron flavor brane, and its electrostatic field is a density of virtual photon-strings that it produces in the electromagnetism brane, and which emanate from the point where the electron-string is attached. In fact, the photon-strings actually are quantized vibrations of the electromagnetism brane. The brane's vibrations are described by the Born-Infeld equation, which is an old modification of electrodynamics that long predates string theory, and which reduces to Maxwell's equations at low energies.
 
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Thank you Mitchell for both your replies!
 
mitchell porter said:
field mode excitations

which field? real electron field or real photon field. virtual photons do not have fields of their own, correct?
 
Those questions are very confusing. Perhaps I should have said:

"they will be emitting and absorbing virtual photons, or causing VIRTUAL excitations of modes of the electromagnetic field - in a quantum field theory, virtual particles and VIRTUAL field mode excitations are just two ways of talking about the same thing"
 

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