Photons - Trying to find distance

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The discussion revolves around calculating the distance from which the human eye can detect light from a 60-W lightbulb, given the ability to detect a minimal number of photons per second. The subject area includes concepts from optics and photon behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to determine the number of photons emitted by the lightbulb and how they spread out in space. There are questions about which equations are applicable and how to relate the known photon detection threshold to the distance from the light source.

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Some participants have provided guidance on estimating the number of photons emitted and suggested considering the geometry of light dispersion. There is an ongoing exploration of how to connect the known values to solve for the unknown distance.

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The original poster mentions specific values, such as the number of photons detectable per second and the diameter of the pupil, but there may be uncertainties regarding the efficiency of the lightbulb and the relevant equations to use.

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1. The night-adapted eye can detect as few as several photons per second -- say five to be definite. Assuming that the pupil of the eye is 0.6 cm in diameter, from what distance would it be possible for the naked eye to detect a 60-W lightbulb?



2. I'm not sure which equation to use. In the section where the problem is from, I get the follow equations (which don't help me)
E=pc, E=hf, h=6.63x10^-34, p=h/lamda




3. Not sure which formula to use
 
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Well, you will need to know how many photons the light emits per second. You can do this by picking a frequency near the low end of the visible range (to end up with the minimum), and using the energy of the bulb and the energy of the photon. Guess or look up the energy efficiency of a light bulb.

The next thing is how the photons from the bulb spread out in space. They go out in all directions equally, so light up an imaginary sphere at the distance where the eye is. The question is what portion of that lit up area is caught by the eye.
 
It says 5 photons/sec in the question.
 
Yes, you know the 5 per sec answer so you can use the expression for the # of photons hitting the eye - which has a d in it - to solve for the distance.

Physics often works that way. You pretend you know something like the distance to the source, work out other quantities based on that unknown, and when you find one you know the answer for, you can solve for the unknown. Very useful trick!
 

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