Photosynthesis converts CO2 into sugars, can we industrialize this process?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential to industrialize the photosynthesis process as a means to reduce atmospheric CO2 levels. Participants explore various aspects of this concept, including the feasibility, implications, and challenges associated with such an industrialization, as well as the broader environmental impacts.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the completeness of our understanding of photosynthesis and its steps.
  • There is a suggestion that while industrializing photosynthesis could produce O2, the management of the resulting carbon waste poses significant challenges.
  • One participant argues that all agriculture can be seen as a form of industrialized photosynthesis and proposes using hardwood products to sequester carbon effectively.
  • Concerns are raised about the sustainability of cutting down forests for hardwood and the implications of not allowing them to regrow.
  • A participant presents calculations regarding CO2 emissions from gasoline and wood, questioning how much forest area would be needed to offset CO2 production and the practicalities of using the resulting wood.
  • There is mention of an artificial leaf technology that could potentially convert CO2 into usable fuel, with references to different versions of this technology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and implications of industrializing photosynthesis, with no clear consensus reached on the best approach or the practicality of the proposed solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the efficiency of carbon absorption by trees and the complexities involved in managing biomass. There are also unresolved questions about the conversion of CO2 into usable products and the long-term sustainability of proposed methods.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring environmental science, carbon capture technologies, sustainable forestry practices, and the industrial applications of photosynthesis.

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CO2 appears to create global warming, but is there a way to get rid of the CO2? Could we somehow industrialize the photosynthesis process to get rid of large amounts of CO2?

What sorts of issues prevent this solution?
 
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We don't necessarily know every step of photosynthesis?
 
Assuming this was possible, the O2 would go into the atmosphere, but where you put all the "waste" carbon, and what would you do with it (burning it would just get you back to where you started).
 
JDoolin said:
CO2 appears to create global warming, but is there a way to get rid of the CO2? Could we somehow industrialize the photosynthesis process to get rid of large amounts of CO2?
Sure, all agriculture is industrialized photosynthesis. In order to fix the CO2, the only thing that you would have to do is to pull the biomass out of the environment. I recommend hardwood furniture and log homes for the purpose. The harder and denser the wood the better. It takes a lot of CO2 to make and, provided you don't burn it, it sequesters the carbon away from the environment for a very long time.

From a CO2 balance perspective cutting down a rainforest is actually not a bad thing. What is bad is burning the hardwood instead of using it and then not letting the forest re-grow.
 
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I don't know exactly how well I can trust the numbers on the internet, but after a short search it sounds like burning 1 gallon of gasoline produces about 19.4 pounds of Carbon Dioxide, while burning 1 pound of wood produces about 1.5 pounds of carbon dioxide.

Does the latter statistic work in reverse; such that a growing tree will suck about 1.5 pounds of carbon-dioxide out of the air for each pound of hardwood it puts on?

I wonder how many acres of forests we would have to grow (and not burn) to balance the amount of carbon dioxide we produce.

A very rough calculation follows

Worldwide use of oil: 84 million barrels/year *42 gallons/barrel * 20 pounds of CO2 per gallon = 70 billion pounds of CO2

divide by 1.5, absorbed by growing 46 billion pounds of wood.

= 23 million tons of wood grown and not burned.

I'm not sure how that converts into cubic meters... One web-site estimated the worldwide harvest of wood to be around 3.5 billion cubic meters (3/4 of which is used for fuel.)

...or how it would convert into acres, or land-fills. I wonder if we could find use for 23 million tons of hardwood as furniture and houses per year, or if we would bury it. What happens if bugs get into it? Would they convert it right back into CO2?
 
I heard a report on NPR's Science Friday yesterday about an artificial leaf.

It appears there may be two different versions of it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110327191042.htm" describes a device that converts the fuel into Hydrogen for a fuel cell.

But diagrams http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/energyfutureslab/research/grandchallenges/artificialleaf" [/I] gas is exactly what we ought to be going for.
 

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