Phyiscs, finding components with per. line

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the components of a vector C in the xy-plane, given that it is perpendicular to vector A and has a specific scalar product with vector B. The vectors A and B are defined with their respective components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the properties of the dot product and its implications for perpendicular vectors. There are attempts to relate the components of vector C to the known vectors A and B through equations derived from the dot product.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the vectors and have proposed setting up a system of equations based on the dot product conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of linear systems to solve for the components of vector C.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the approach to take, particularly in how to handle the two variables involved in the equations derived from the scalar product. Participants are also questioning the implications of the perpendicularity condition on the components of vector C.

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Homework Statement



You are given vectors A= 5.1 { i } - 7.0 { j } and vec B= - 3.8 { i } + 7.3{j}. A third vector C lies in the xy-plane. Vector C is perpendicular to vector A and the scalar product of vec C with vec B is 16.0.

Find the x -component and y-component of vector vec C

Homework Equations



Not sure, I have no idea how to find components of C with no angles given. I used the Pythagorean theorem for finding the magnitudes of A and B, however, I do not know how/if that even helps.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, for an attempt, I found the magnitude of A to be 8.6023 m while the magnitude of B to be 8.2293 m. I have tried to find C, but I have many different answers I keep getting, all around 5.0 meters, but definitely not right. I finally reached an answer of -2.04 m for the x-component, and it was utterly wrong.

I really need help. thanks. If you need me to clear anything up, just ask.
 
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You'll want to take advantage of the properties of the dot product (scalar product) for this problem. Do you know how to calculate the dot product of two vectors from their components?

In order for two vectors to be perpendicular, what must be the value of their dot product?
 
gneill said:
You'll want to take advantage of the properties of the dot product (scalar product) for this problem. Do you know how to calculate the dot product of two vectors from their components?

In order for two vectors to be perpendicular, what must be the value of their dot product?

Yes, I know that vector A*B = AxBx + AyBy + AzBz, but I don't understand how I'm suppose to find C components by using scalar products.

(-3.81 i)(x)+(7.3 i)(y) = 16.0 meters.

B*C = 16.0 meter(scalar product)

However, how do I find X or Y this way?
Thats where I have issues finding the components of C.
 
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What he was trying to say is the dot product of two perpendicular vectors is 0
 
Does than mean that the C x-component and y-component are zero?
 
No A doted with C equals 0 then B doted with C = 16. I'm not positive but I'm sure you could just use a simple linear system to figure it out.
 
EnjoiTAD said:
No A doted with C equals 0 then B doted with C = 16. I'm not positive but I'm sure you could just use a simple linear system to figure it out.

Alright, I see what you mean, but then I just get led back to my original equation of B*C =16.0 with 2 variables, which I don't know how to put two and two together(A*C = 0, B*C=16).
 
Thats just it have you solved linear systems before? I worked it out it works.
5.1x-7.0y=0
-3.8x+7.3y=16
just solve that.
 
EnjoiTAD said:
No A doted with C equals 0 then B doted with C = 16. I'm not positive but I'm sure you could just use a simple linear system to figure it out.

EnjoiTAD said:
Thats just it have you solved linear systems before? I worked it out it works.
5.1x-7.0y=0
-3.8x+7.3y=16
just solve that.

Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it.

However, if anyone want to show me how to do the problem using a different method, that would be great.
 

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