Physical chemistry textbook without a lot of calculus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for physical chemistry textbooks that minimize the use of calculus. Participants explore whether specific texts, such as those focused on biological sciences, cover the same topics as traditional physical chemistry books like Atkins. The conversation includes suggestions for alternative resources and opinions on the role of calculus in chemistry education.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for physical chemistry textbooks that do not heavily feature calculus, questioning if texts for biological sciences cover the same material as standard physical chemistry books.
  • Another participant suggests that it is unlikely to find physical chemistry books without calculus, as the subject matter typically requires it, and recommends a general chemistry book that includes some physical chemistry content.
  • A participant asserts that chemistry textbooks generally contain less calculus and derivations compared to physics textbooks, implying that the mathematical rigor in chemistry is less demanding.
  • A later reply challenges the relevance of calculus derivations, emphasizing that understanding concepts and their applications is more important than the mathematical details, while also noting that both physics and chemistry are heavily reliant on mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of physical chemistry textbooks with minimal calculus. There are competing views on the necessity of calculus in understanding physical chemistry and the comparison of mathematical rigor between chemistry and physics.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the level of calculus in physical chemistry texts and the definitions of "knowledge" versus "derivations" remain unresolved. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the importance of mathematical rigor in the sciences.

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Hi, I am looking for any physical chemistry textbook without a lot of calculus. I have been looking at physical chemistry for biological sciences but I am unsure if they cover the same topics as the regular atkins and other physical chemistry do. Does anyone have any suggestions for good books, or can tell me whether pchem for biological sciences books cover the same pchem topics?

Thanks
 
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You probably won't find any books dedicated to physical chemistry that don't include calculus; there just wouldn't be enough material to make a book.

Try looking for a generic chemistry book that goes over everything. I have a book called Chemistry and Chemical Reactivity by Kotz & Purcell that is roughly 1200 pages, and about 100 of them are for physical chemistry. Most books are the same, so it really doesn't matter which one you get.
 
Generally, you won't see a lot of calculus and deviations in your chemistry textbooks.
and I dare to say, there is much less derivations in chem than physics !
 
mysqlpress said:
Generally, you won't see a lot of calculus and deviations in your chemistry textbooks.
and I dare to say, there is much less derivations in chem than physics !

Your comment is irrelevant. Calculus derivetions in books is not knowledge...knowledge is getting the concept and then applied them to real world problems.
Anyway, both physics and chemistry are physical sciences and rely heavily on mathematics. And to be honest, QM is the only part of physics which is mathematical rigorous.. And others? well, not so much.So back off a little bit.
 

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