Physics Book Problem: Berlin-Paris Train Error

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the distance a train travels from Berlin to Paris, specifically addressing the total distance covered and the implications of overshooting the track. The subject area includes concepts of distance measurement and significant figures in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the validity of expressing the total distance as 890,010 meters versus 890 kilometers, questioning the significance of the additional 10 meters. Some participants draw analogies to real-world scenarios to illustrate their points.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with various perspectives on the appropriateness of the distance representation. Some participants suggest that the additional distance may be insignificant due to rounding and significant figures, while others question the implications of measuring distances in practical terms.

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There are discussions about significant figures and the accuracy of the distance measurement, with references to potential rounding in both the train's distance and real-world examples.

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Homework Statement



A train travels 890 km from Berlin to Paris and then overshoots the end of the track by 10m.

Homework Equations



a.What is the %error in the total distance covered
b.Is it correct to write the distance by the train as 890,010m?Explain.

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the answer for a. The book says that the answer for b is no. But I am not sure why. Can someone help me with b.
 
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iampaul said:

Homework Statement



A train travels 890 km from Berlin to Paris and then overshoots the end of the track by 10m.

Homework Equations



a.What is the %error in the total distance covered
b.Is it correct to write the distance by the train as 890,010m?Explain.

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the answer for a. The book says that the answer for b is no. But I am not sure why. Can someone help me with b.

have you ever read the headline in the news paper "65,000 attend football final" and thought that if only you had gone there would have been 65 001 people there! I don't think that would be true either, for the same sort of reason.
 
for B., Since 1Km=1000m, Writing 890,000m can be considered because it is the same as 890km. There's nothing wrong in using any of the two.
 
andorei said:
for B., Since 1Km=1000m, Writing 890,000m can be considered because it is the same as 890km. There's nothing wrong in using any of the two.

At best, 890 km is specified to three significant figures, so to add another 10m really is insignificant. Berlin might actually be 890.2 km away anyway.
There is a chance that the distance is supposed to be only 2 figure accuracy. Berlin might be 892 km away, but it is rounded to 890.

And the football crowd of 65,000 was probably rounded to the nearest 1000 people!
 
Not to mention that neither the train nor Berlin are mathematical points. So how would one go about measuring the "distance" between the train and Berlin? Where in Berlin do you put one point of your measuring tape and where on the train do you put the other end?
 
thanks a lot!
 

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