Physics Education Jobs: Becoming a College Professor

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and prospects of becoming a college professor in physics, particularly for someone considering a shift from high school science education to a physics major. Participants share insights on the difficulty of securing faculty positions, the importance of research experience, and alternative pathways to teaching roles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to transition from high school science education to physics, seeking insights on the difficulty of becoming a college professor and job prospects in the field.
  • Another participant asserts that becoming a college professor is extremely difficult, with odds varying significantly depending on the type of institution, suggesting that teaching high school physics may improve chances.
  • A third participant references statistics from the American Institute of Physics, noting that there are more faculty positions in Bachelor's Departments compared to PhD Departments, but emphasizes the competitive nature of these roles.
  • This participant also highlights the necessity of research experience for teaching positions, particularly at smaller colleges, and advises prospective candidates to consider accessible research fields.
  • Another contributor recommends pursuing the high school education route as a pathway to adjunct positions at community colleges or four-year institutions, sharing personal experiences of difficulty in securing teaching roles despite extensive experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of securing a college professor position in physics, but there are differing opinions on the best pathways to achieve this goal, with some advocating for the high school education route while others emphasize the importance of research experience.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors influencing job prospects, including the type of institution, the competitive nature of faculty searches, and the necessity of research experience, but do not resolve the complexities surrounding these issues.

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Hello everyone! This is my first post here on Physics Forums. I'm hoping that you guys will be able to assist me with a dilemma I'm facing. I'm thinking of changing my major from high school science education to physics so I can become a college professor. The way my education program is going with scheduling, I could potentially be halfway through a Masters degree by the time I'd graduate with my education degree and license. Obviously I've heard that becoming a college professor is extremely difficult. I'm hoping everyone can offer some insight into how difficult it is to become a professor as well as job prospects in the physics field in general. I've heard a lot of good experiences and a lot of terrible experiences as well, and I'm hoping to get a clearer picture on the subject. Thank you everyone!

By the way: If I was to go into a grad school for physics I'd probably study astrophysics/ astronomy or perhaps particle physics. Doing research would be awesome if the opportunity arises, but I really want to teach.
 
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Walter1996 said:
Obviously I've heard that becoming a college professor is extremely difficult. I'm hoping everyone can offer some insight into how difficult it is to become a professor...
It has been extremely difficult for some time, it is presently extremely difficult and will be even more difficult in the foreseeable future. Nearly impossible at the top research institutions (odds 1 in a 1000) to merely difficult as adjunct faculty at a community college (odds 1 in 10). Teaching high school physics raises those odds considerably. Bottom line - if you really want to teach physics stick with your present high school science education track.
 
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You can find statistics about faculty positions at the American Institute of Physics, which regularly surveys department chairs and faculty members.

According to their graph of Number of New Faculty Members, there are slightly more positions available in "Bachelor's Departments" (small colleges/universities that do not have PhD programs) than in "PhD Departments." These schools tend to be more focused on teaching than on research.

However, you usually do have to be able to do some research, because (as we can see abundantly on this forum!) undergraduate research is now considered to be an essential part of a physics bachelor's degree in the US. When you are choosing a research field for your PhD, if your goal is a position at one of these smaller schools, you need to choose something that is accessible to bachelor's level students, and can be done with the limited resources that these schools usually have available. Try browsing a selection of web sites of such schools and see what kinds of research their faculty actually do.

These positions are very competitive. I've been at one of one of these schools for over 30 years. We've had several physics faculty searches, and have always had at least 100 applicants, even though we're far from the Williams / Amherst / Swarthmore / Oberlin level, and located in a small rural Southern town.

My own job-hunting experience was more than 30 years ago. For what it's worth, in each of my two job searches (both focused on small-college positions) after graduate school (U of Michigan), I sent out probably about 30 applications, and got two interviews and one job offer. So don't be picky about what part of the country you end up in, and have a Plan B ready. Mine was to look for a programming job.
 
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Go the high school education route, then you can get an adjunct position at community college or possibly a 4-year school.

I have 15+ years teaching experience from my time in the service, 3-5 years during graduate school teaching freshman courses and almost 20 years industrial experience and I have had trouble finding a teaching position. Matter a fact, I have taken a job as a high school substitute just to get in the door if I don't find another industrial position.
 
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