Physics for undergraduate and engeneering for graduate? how feasible is it?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of pursuing a physics undergraduate degree with the intention of later specializing in applied areas such as engineering or theoretical physics. Participants explore concerns about employment prospects, university admissions, and the nature of applied versus theoretical physics.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the employment prospects of a physics degree in Mozambique and questions the feasibility of transitioning from an undergraduate degree in applied physics to more theoretical fields later on.
  • Another participant argues that an applied physics degree covers necessary foundational physics, which can be built upon for more theoretical studies or practical applications.
  • A participant raises concerns about how admissions committees perceive students who switch majors, suggesting that demonstrating a clear interest in a specific field is crucial.
  • Some participants note that certain interdisciplinary fields are more accepting of students from diverse backgrounds, while others, like theoretical physics, may be less accommodating to major switches.
  • One participant shares a personal experience regarding graduate school applications, indicating that a lack of relevant background can lead to rejection, while a strong background in a related field can enhance acceptance chances.
  • There is a request for clarification on the curriculum of applied physics, with a distinction made between applied physics and engineering physics as understood in different educational contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the transition from applied physics to theoretical fields, with some agreeing on the importance of demonstrating interest and relevant experience, while others highlight the challenges of such transitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for students considering these options.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying definitions of applied physics and engineering physics, which may affect the discussion. There is also uncertainty regarding the specific requirements and expectations of university admissions committees.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a physics degree, particularly in regions with limited educational options, and those interested in transitioning between physics and engineering disciplines may find this discussion relevant.

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My parents are kinda worried about my will to become a physicist. it is not a common course here in Mozambique and find employment could be a little bit hard (but I don't plan to work here...). everybody tells me that I should study applied or engineering physics. to calm down them I argue that, later on, I can major in an applied area (engineering, applied physics...). but is it possible? will I find difficulties by doing this? in other hand, can I have an undergraduate degree in applied physics and later on major in areas such as high energy, astrophysics,etc?
 
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Yes. Applied Physics learns all the necessary physics classes that can be built later on into things that are more on the formal theory side, or just to use them on a job out of school.

I'd caution against going into anything too theoretical, since there's so many things in theoretical physics are so far removed from experiment and application that they'd NEVER be used or even seen.
 
this won't be a disadvantage while applying to an university? The admission committee won't consider me as a not focused student and consequently lose interest in me?
 
MadAtom said:
this won't be a disadvantage while applying to an university? The admission committee won't consider me as a not focused student and consequently lose interest in me?

You must prove your interest regardless of major.

There's some areas, such as physical chemistry, condensed matter physics, materials science, biomedical engineering, biochemistry, computational biology, etc. that are much more welcome to outsiders (major switches) than others like theoretical math or high energy astro. Its simply because some areas are quite interdisciplinary and a great variety of people can contribute their skills, and others are very specialized and only a few people can.

However, if you truly are unfocused, say, going from physical chemistry all the way into high energy astro, then yes, they will junk your application outright unless you could prove (with publications and/or research experience) that you can succeed.

When I applied to grad school several schools junked my paper outright because I expressed interest in a research area that I didn't have background for (nonlinear optics). On the other hand I was readily accepted by programs when I expressed interest in their condensed matter research, because I already had extensive lab and research experience in materials science.

I don't sit on an admissions committee so take my thoughts as reference only.
 
chill_factor said:
I don't sit on an admissions committee so take my thoughts as reference only.

Thanks anyway...
 
Do you maybe have a list of courses for the "Applied Physics" course you're talking about?
 
mr. vodka said:
Do you maybe have a list of courses for the "Applied Physics" course you're talking about?

Maybe I expressed myself wrong. I see that Applied Physics is an application in a specific range (biophysics, nanotech, astro,...). But by applied Physics I mean the same as Engineering Physics. In my country the only undergraduate physics courses available are Educational Physics and Applied Physics (which is basically the same as Engineering Physics).
 

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