Physics help- unsure where I went wrong

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving dynamics and rotational motion. The first problem concerns a metal bar struck by a ball, requiring the calculation of angular speed after the collision. The second problem involves a bowling ball rolling up an incline, focusing on its acceleration and the coefficient of static friction needed to prevent slipping.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of angular momentum to find the angular speed of the bar but expresses uncertainty about their calculations. They also explore forces acting on the bowling ball rolling uphill, questioning their approach to finding acceleration and the coefficient of friction.

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Some participants provide alternative formulations and calculations related to the angular speed of the bar, while others suggest considering torque for the second problem. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with participants sharing their progress and seeking further guidance.

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The original poster mentions issues with their calculator, which may affect their ability to verify calculations. There is also a hint of uncertainty regarding the assumptions made in both problems, particularly in the context of forces and motion on an incline.

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1. A thin, uniform, metal bar, 2.5 m long and weighing 90 N, is hanging vertically from the ceiling by a frictionless pivot. Suddenly it is struck 1.3 m below the ceiling by a small 4-kg ball, initially traveling horizontally at 14 m/s. The ball rebounds in the opposite direction with a speed of 7 m/s.

Part A. Find the angular speed of the bar just after the collision.

I tried to solve using conservation of angular momentum (it must be a calculation error but I keep getting the same answer):
m1v_0d = -m1vd +(1/3)m2L^2(omega)
(4.0kg)(14m/s)(1.3m) = -(3kg)(7m/s)(1.3m)+(1/3)(90N/9.82m/s)(2.5m)^2(omega)
72.8 = 57.398 + (-27.3)
1001.1 = 57.398
1.7439rad/s = \omega 2. A Ball Rolling Uphill. A bowling ball rolls without slipping up a ramp that slopes upward at an angle beta to the horizontal. Treat the ball as a uniform, solid sphere, ignoring the finger holes.
Part A. What is the acceleration of the center of mass of the ball?

I tried drawing it out, f = mew N, N = wsin(beta)
- (WsinF+ muWcos(beta) = macm
I entered acm = -g(sinF+mucos (beta)
It was incorrect, so I thought I over-did it, and tried just -g(sin(beta)), but that was also incorrect, I'm not sure where to go from here. Part B. What minimum coefficient of static friction is needed to prevent slipping?
I tried mu = tan (beta)
 
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You have

|r X P| = r*m*vi = r*m*(-vf) + I*ω

So r*m*(vi + vf) = 1.3*4*(14 + 7) = 1.3*4*21 = 109.2 = 1/3*90/9.8*L2

So then ...

ω = 109.2*9.8*3/(90*2.5*2.5) = ... ?
 
thanks!- I've got a calculator now (much easier! Mine stopped working last week so I've been borrowing from a friend), 5.70752.

Any tips on the next question?
 
cpat said:
thanks!- I've got a calculator now (much easier! Mine stopped working last week so I've been borrowing from a friend), 5.70752.

Any tips on the next question?

For 2) consider the torque about the center of the solid sphere. That might yield "a" angular acceleration which you can then relate to linear acceleration along the incline.
 

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