Physics in morocco under government scholarship

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the educational and career choices faced by a student studying engineering in Morocco under a government scholarship. Participants explore the implications of pursuing a bachelor's degree versus a longer engineering degree known as "inginieur d'état," as well as considerations for future job market trends and career selection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Career-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to pursue a bachelor's degree or the "inginieur d'état" degree, seeking guidance on the implications of each choice.
  • Another participant supports the idea of pursuing the "inginieur d'état" degree, suggesting it may be more beneficial for future employment.
  • Concerns are raised about marketability after obtaining a degree, with one participant questioning the value of a three-year bachelor's program compared to a longer degree.
  • A participant shares their perspective on the educational system, noting that a bachelor's degree may not provide sufficient preparation for the workforce and emphasizing the advantages of a longer degree in terms of research and industrial exposure.
  • There is a request for information on promising fields in the job market, with renewable energies and telecommunications mentioned as high-demand sectors.
  • Another participant advises the original poster to observe and explore different fields before making a career decision, highlighting the flexibility of engineering careers.
  • Suggestions are made to prioritize studies over immediate career selection, with a recommendation to document ideas and plans to aid in decision-making.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of a bachelor's degree versus the "inginieur d'état" degree, with no consensus reached on which path is superior. There is also a lack of agreement on the best fields for future job prospects, as opinions vary on market demand.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge a lack of familiarity with the Moroccan educational system, which may influence their perspectives on degree value and marketability.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering engineering studies in Morocco, individuals exploring career options in STEM fields, and those interested in the implications of different educational pathways on job market readiness.

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my name is ebrima from the gambia. i am in morocco under government scholarship. i already studied french for a year now and i just started my engineering cours wheareas i have to do maths and physics for 3 semesters then the last threee semesters I've to specialise on the site i want to study to ve my bachelor's degree or else go for what the french call concour national so that i will be intergrated in the grandes ecoles. honestly i don't know what to do, either to go to the grandes ecoles after my first three semesters and have three years at grandes ecoles then come out with inginieur d'etat or go for my bachelor's. please guide me through before making a mess in my life.
hope to hear you my guys.
 
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Hi,Does doing a bachelor mean staying in Morocco & doing inginieur d'etat degree continuing in France ?I personally support going for the standard French engineering degree "inginieur d'etat" at some grand ecole.
 
yes it means staying here in morocco and have your inginieur d'etat. but please what will be my marketability after all?
 
I don't know the exact situation you are having as I am not familiar with the Moroccan educational system (but I heard the Mohammedia school for Engineers in Rabat is good).

This is my view in General:

- A 3 years bachelor doesn't teach you much, you barely cover the essentials, so if you head to working environment, you will realize that what know is very little compared to real world applications.
- Ing d'etat as per my understanding is longer and roughly translates to a European diplom or a master degree: This is more interesting to future employers
- Marketability depends (to some extent on you, i.e. the computer programming languages you know, how good are your soft skills) + your degree
- For whatever you want to do later on, the Master degree equivalent will put you on a good footing.
- Longer degree: More research exposure.
- Longer degree = more industrial exposure (through internships/industrial attachments/traineeships)
- Longer degree will give you more options as you can decide to pursue further education or go to the industry.
 
ok thank u very much. i am grateful to the power +infinity. but please once more can u list the three most wonderful fields for the future job market worldwide. really i ve a problem of career selection too. please
 
evra said:
ok thank u very much. i am grateful to the power +infinity. but please once more can u list the three most wonderful fields for the future job market worldwide. really i ve a problem of career selection too. please

Anytime.

Currently, Renewable Energies sector is progressing well and high on demand world wide.
This doesn't mean that other fields are not doing well, but rather there is a large increase in the number of companies working in the field.

Some fields like Telecommunications are high on demand anywhere world wide.

My suggestion is, since you just started your engineering studies, it will be wise to observe first and then select the field if possible.

See, a field that you might like now, may no longer be interesting for you later on.
Some fields allow you to land jobs more easily in certain regions only, like in Semiconductor Industry.
Electronics making factories (called Fabs, from the word 'fabrication') are limited to certain regions of the world, due to high competition (Red Ocean,, Red Ocean: many companies are already existing in the field and competing aggressively, hence fewer new companies enter the field) and the high cost of making a new fab (~5 Billion USD for a cutting edge fab, like the ones owned by Intel, AMD & TSMC).

My advise is, do what you like most or love most.
Engineering career is relatively flexible, since engineers are multi skilled and can fit into various sectors.

And Remember (as you already know),, your study should be in the top of your priorities, so if possible put the career selection till later on and focus on the current study, as time progresses, things will clear up.

Notes:
1.) If you are interested in reading about the Red & Blue Ocean concept (you can recommend it to your university/college library to buy, so as to save your money)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591396190/?tag=pfamazon01-20

2.) I I typically like to write down ideas and possible plans/paths, list the pros and cons of each, it helps me sometimes to confirm my choices.
 
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