Physics professor salary question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the salary structure of physics professors, particularly in relation to their research activities and teaching responsibilities. Participants explore how research funding impacts salary, the distinction between "hard money" and "soft money," and the implications of these funding sources on teaching loads and institutional policies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that professors primarily engage in research, with teaching being a secondary role, while others note that professors often teach basic modules.
  • One participant explains that at research-oriented universities, a professor's salary may be partially funded by research grants, referred to as "soft money," which allows them to reduce their teaching load for research purposes.
  • Another participant mentions that graduate research classes serve as bookkeeping classes, where tuition contributes to teaching credits, and that professors are encouraged to engage in consulting or entrepreneurial activities related to their research.
  • A participant clarifies that they do not receive additional pay for research; their salary from research grants is equivalent to their institutional salary, and they cannot bill for both simultaneously.
  • It is noted that institutions typically provide salary for teaching (hard money), while research grants are expected to support research activities and may allow for buy-outs of teaching responsibilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the primary responsibilities of professors and the relationship between teaching and research funding. There is no consensus on the exact implications of salary structures and funding sources, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference practices in the USA, suggesting that salary structures and funding mechanisms may vary in other countries. The discussion also highlights the complexity of funding sources and their impact on teaching loads, which may not be universally applicable.

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I know some professors at my school do research- obviously. But some don't. Does my physics professor get paid more for doing research? Or does something fun like that come out of their own pay? Like do they have to finance it themselves?
 
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Hmm...? I was under the impression that the primary role of professors is to do research; teaching is often a secondary thing (they usually take only about 1 module per semester at most). In fact, most of the more basic modules are taught by lecturers and not professors.
 
Well... all of my classes the people who are lecturing are professors..
 
My understanding is that at many or most research-oriented universities, some of a professor's pay comes from the university, and some comes from the research grant (from some outside source) that funds his research (this is called "soft money"). I think a common setup is that the official salary from the university is based on a full teaching schedule, and the professor uses some of his grant money to "buy" some of his teaching load so he can use the time for research.

(This is in the USA; practices are probably different in other countries.)
 
thank you jtbell! :)
 
One other thing is that a lot of the teaching classes are "nominal." If you open up any course catalog for a university, you will see entries for "graduate research" or something similar. Those are "bookkeeping classes". Graduate students pay tuition which gets pooled into teaching credits, which are used to pay for teaching loads. In fact, the "class" consists of people doing research. Distance learning classes also end up with the same framework.

In addition, unlike most other occupations, universities *encourage* professors to moonlight, so it's very common for professors to have side jobs either consulting or starting their own companies. It's also encouraged for professors to take any inventions that they have, make money off of them, and start companies based on that research. Because universities are non-profits and because it's a "reputation economy" if you take your research and then start a mega-company and become a bizillionaire with the profits, the university will love you, whereas this will get you instantly fired in industry.

Also companies will often sponsor research. They give the university money with the expectation that it will go to a particular group minus a "tax" which is giving to the university. In the "mechanical world" this doesn't lead to problems, but there has been a lot of discussion about conflict of interest when it comes to biotech and social sciences (i.e. finance).
 
mariexotoni said:
I know some professors at my school do research- obviously. But some don't. Does my physics professor get paid more for doing research? Or does something fun like that come out of their own pay? Like do they have to finance it themselves?

I am not paid "more" for research- that is, whatever salary that I am paid through a research grant is at the same monthly level as the salary I am paid from my institution. Also, I can't double-bill my time- I can't simultaneously draw salary from my institution and my research grant.

As a general rule, institutions pay salary ("hard money") for teaching; salary requests on a research proposal ("soft money") exist because of the assumption that the PI will spend time doing research instead of teaching. For tenure-track appointments, as jtbell mentioned, salary dollars from research can be used to replace (buy-out) institutional salary and/or they can used to provide salary support during summer months. Non-tenure track appointments usually require 100% salary support from research grants, and it is increasingly common for research-intensive institutions to require *all* faculty to 'recover' a certain percentage of their salary from research grants.
 

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