Physics with No mathematics background

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The discussion centers on the challenges faced by individuals with little to no mathematics background who wish to study physics. Participants explore suitable resources and foundational mathematical concepts necessary for understanding physics, as well as alternative approaches for those who may not have the time to learn advanced mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the suitability of two specific books on mathematical methods for physics, indicating a lack of prior math experience.
  • Another participant notes that the recommended books expect a calculus background and asks for clarification on the original poster's math experience.
  • Suggestions for alternative physics books that do not require extensive math, such as works by Isaac Asimov and George Gamow, are provided by participants.
  • A participant emphasizes the necessity of calculus for meaningful physics study and suggests looking for introductory calculus resources.
  • One participant recommends video lectures from MIT as a learning resource for physics and calculus.
  • There are repeated inquiries about the original poster's level of mathematical skills, indicating a need for clarity on their background.
  • Another participant suggests mastering specific calculus concepts before tackling the recommended books and shares a strategy of using both formal and informal resources for self-study.
  • One participant questions whether a non-calculus-based physics course would suffice, indicating that good algebra might be enough for basic understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a solid understanding of calculus is essential for studying physics meaningfully. However, there are differing opinions on the level of math required and the suitability of various resources, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the original poster's mathematical background and the specific level of physics they wish to study, which may affect the appropriateness of suggested resources.

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I had no mathematics and physics background during my undergraduate studies. Due to some reason, I have to study Physics now. I have to found some book on Mathematics for Physics and I found the below two on Amazon:
Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences by Mary L.Boas
Mathematical Methods for Science Students by L. Stephenson
Are the above suitable? Thanks
 
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These books expect that you have gone through at least the calculus sequence (at least the Boas book does). When you say you don't have any math background, what do you mean? What's the highest level of math you have had? Learning physics takes a lot of math preparation and learning.

If you are just interested in physics and don't have the time to learn the math, then I recommend getting Understanding Physics by Isaac Asimov. There is also Gravity by George Gamow. In fact, any of Gamow's books would do. He writes books that are very fun to read, contain physics, but are accessible.

Also, The Quantum World by Kenneth Ford and Diane Goldstein is pretty good.

See this https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2389844#post2389844" for more.
 
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I had algebra but not calculus. What do you suggest if I have to go through the maths in Physics? I think I need some really basic maths training...Thanks
 
You really can't do any meaningful physics without calculus. So that's probably where you need to start. There are tons of threads here about introductory calculus books, so maybe you can look a few of those up.
 
Thanks a lot! It going to be tough...
 
Check out the video lectures on physics and calculus at ocw.mit.edu. They are in the audio/video section in Physics and Math, respectively. I have always learned best from lectures and these professors are top notch.
 
Just how poor is your mathematical skills..?
 
you are not ready for the two books you listed, there is a lot you need to know before that.

to begin with you want to do Calculus. I would say you want to MASTER at least the following: limit, continuity, sequence/series, derivatives, and integrals. You can further study them in 3-Dimensions...but this isn't that bad.whenever I'm trying to self-study something i have no clue of i buy two books. One of them would be a formal textbook and another would be informal guide/manual. Then study topic by topic from both. I suggest you do the same.

Search for Calculus guide/manual (and textbook as well) in amazon.com there are so many of them...good ones like "Calculus for Dummies", "How to Ace Calculus", "The Calculus Lifesaver".

P.S. i never used anyone of the listed above...but i hear they are good.
 
flyingpig said:
Just how poor is your mathematical skills..?

Just how poor are your mathematical skills. FTFY.
 
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You need to tell us what level of physics you need to learn. Would a non-calculus-based first-year course be enough? Then you just need good algebra. However, as others have said, for anything meaningful you need much more math.

rubrix said:
"The Calculus Lifesaver"
I own this and it is good. It is not lightweight, though.

It has free videos...

http://press.princeton.edu/video/banner/
 

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