Physics120 car collision question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to automobile collisions, specifically focusing on the forces experienced by a person during a crash when using safety features like seat belts and airbags versus being unrestrained. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, particularly Newton's laws of motion and kinematics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for net forces on a person in a collision, questioning the initial speed and mass used in the calculations. There is also a focus on the relevance of the distance over which deceleration occurs and the implications of being restrained versus unrestrained.

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The discussion has evolved with participants clarifying details about the problem statement and correcting initial misunderstandings. Some participants have expressed confidence in their understanding after reviewing the problem, while others continue to seek clarification on specific points.

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There are discrepancies in the initial values provided, such as the speed of the car and the mass of the person, which have led to confusion. Participants are also addressing the assumption that unrestrained occupants will strike unyielding surfaces.

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Homework Statement


Seat belts and air bags save lives by reducing the forces exerted on the driver and passengers in an automobile collision. Cars are designed with a "crumple zone" in the front of the car. In the event of an impact, the passenger compartment decelerates over a distance of about 1 meter as the front of the car crumples. An occupant restrained by seat belts and air bags decelerates with the car. By contrast, an unrestrained occupant keeps moving forward with no loss of speed (Newton's first law!) until hitting the dashboard or windshield. These are unyielding surfaces, and the unfortunate occupant then decelerates over a distance of only about 5 mm.
(a) A 60 kg person is in a head-on collision. The car's speed at impact is 15 m/s. Calculate the net force on the person if he or she is wearing a seat belt and the air bag deploys correctly.

(b) Calculate the net force that ultimately stops the person if he or she is not restrained by a seat belt or air bag.

(c) How do these two forces compare to the person's weight?


Homework Equations



F= ma
Vf^2= V0^2 + 2ax
Vf= V0 + at
x= V0*t + .5a(t^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, for (a), what I thought you do is: Force of seatbelt and airbag = mass * acceleration

Then, using Vf^2= V0^2 + 2ax, make Vf = 0. Solve for ax.
So, ax= -(15^2)/(2*1.005) which equals -111.9 m/s^2

Btw, I got 1.005 because the passenger compartment decelerates over 1 m, and the airbag for 0.05mm, so I assumed adding those two nuumbers together, to give me 1.005 m will give me the distance. I am not sure about this, though.

Then, go back to the Force of seatbelt and airbag = mass * acceleration

F= 60 kg * -111.9 m/s^2
=-6716 N


Please help, Thank-you!
 
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Is the initial speed 17 m/s or 15 m/s?

As to your 5 mm, ignore it. The idea is that if restrained the person won't strike an unyielding surface.

Is the weight 50 kg or 60 as in your calculation?
 
LowlyPion said:
Is the initial speed 17 m/s or 15 m/s?

As to your 5 mm, ignore it. The idea is that if restrained the person won't strike an unyielding surface.

Is the weight 50 kg or 60 as in your calculation?


The initial speed is 15 m/s.

Also, the mass of the person is 60 kg.

Do you happen to know how to do this question? PLease help, if you can.
 
The original statement of the problem says otherwise.
 
LowlyPion said:
The original statement of the problem says otherwise.


I apologize, here is the problem with the correct numbers:


Seat belts and air bags save lives by reducing the forces exerted on the driver and passengers in an automobile collision. Cars are designed with a "crumple zone" in the front of the car. In the event of an impact, the passenger compartment decelerates over a distance of about 1 meter as the front of the car crumples. An occupant restrained by seat belts and air bags decelerates with the car. By contrast, an unrestrained occupant keeps moving forward with no loss of speed (Newton's first law!) until hitting the dashboard or windshield. These are unyielding surfaces, and the unfortunate occupant then decelerates over a distance of only about 5 mm.

(a) A 60 kg person is in a head-on collision. The car's speed at impact is 15 m/s. Calculate the net force on the person if he or she is wearing a seat belt and the air bag deploys correctly.

(b) Estimate the net force that ultimately stops the person if he or she is not restrained by a seat belt or air bag.

(c) How do these two forces compare to the person's weight?
 
NEVERMIND! I completely understand what I was not seeing before. I got the answers for all 3 parts! Thank-you for showing me that I had made an error when I wrote out the numbers in the problem!
 

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