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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the addition of vectors in the context of an equilateral triangle with point charges at each corner. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the forces acting on a charge and the necessary calculations to determine the magnitudes and signs of the other charges based on a given net force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to convert units from centimeters to meters and the process of vector addition. There are mentions of using the Law of Cosines and Law of Sines for non-right triangles, as well as the suggestion to split vectors into horizontal and vertical components.

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Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversion and vector decomposition. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the problem, with no consensus reached yet on the method to solve it. The original poster continues to seek clarification on the steps involved.

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Participants note the challenge of visualizing the problem without a drawing and the implications of the net force direction on the components of the vectors involved.

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Please help me with this question, I am a complete physics newbie who is lost…
Alright.
The Question states:

The drawing shows an equilateral triangle, each side of which has a length of 2.00 cm. Point charges are fixed at each corner, as shown. The 400 mC charge experiences a net force due to the charge q A and qB. This net force points vertically downward in the drawing and has a magnitude of 405 N. Determine the magnitude and algebraic sighs of the charges qA and qB.

This is what I did:

(1) I know that centimeters are supposed to be converted to meters
2.00*10-6
(2) Two vectors A & B are added together to produce a third vector C = A + B .
(3) When the triangle formed is not a right triangle:
the magnitude of the vector sum can be found by using the Law of Cosines or the Law of Sines

meaning:


4.00*10-6
-----------------------
1

so now I am lost
HELP!
 
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Ba.Ala said:
(1) I know that centimeters are supposed to be converted to meters
2.00*10-6

(2) Two vectors A & B are added together to produce a third vector C = A + B .
(3) When the triangle formed is not a right triangle:
the magnitude of the vector sum can be found by using the Law of Cosines or the Law of Sines

meaning:

4.00*10-6
-----------------------
1

so now I am lost
HELP!
Welcome to PF.

First off: 1 cm = .01 m

I can't see your picture. But you are right the basic idea for field values is vector addition.

The rest of it ... I can see no drawing. I'm not exactly sure what you are doing math wise.
 
Ba.Ala said:
Please help me with this question, I am a complete physics newbie who is lost…
Alright.
The Question states:

The drawing shows an equilateral triangle, each side of which has a length of 2.00 cm. Point charges are fixed at each corner, as shown. The 400 mC charge experiences a net force due to the charge q A and qB. This net force points vertically downward in the drawing and has a magnitude of 405 N. Determine the magnitude and algebraic sighs of the charges qA and qB.

This is what I did:

(1) I know that centimeters are supposed to be converted to meters
2.00*10-6
(2) Two vectors A & B are added together to produce a third vector C = A + B .
(3) When the triangle formed is not a right triangle:
the magnitude of the vector sum can be found by using the Law of Cosines or the Law of Sines

meaning:


4.00*10-6
-----------------------
1

so now I am lost
HELP!
Welcome to PF,

Firstly, [itex]2cm = 2\times10^{-2}m[/itex] and not [itex]2\times10^{-6}m[/itex]. Secondly, have you tried splitting the vectors into horizontal and vertical components? Since the net force acts downwards, you know that the horizontal components must sum to zero.
 
thank you
alright this is where my problem is
if: A B C
----= ----- = ---
sine(θA) Sine (θB) Sine(θC)

this is an equliateral triangle meaning:
2*10^-2 2*10^-2 2*10^-2
---------= ----------- -----------
1 1 1

there is no answere
and that is why I am stuck,.
 
Ba.Ala said:
thank you
alright this is where my problem is
if: A B C
----= ----- = ---
sine(θA) Sine (θB) Sine(θC)

this is an equliateral triangle meaning:
2*10^-2 2*10^-2 2*10^-2
---------= ----------- -----------
1 1 1

there is no answere
and that is why I am stuck,.
There is no need to resort to the laws of sines or cosines. As I said previously, try splitting each force vector into two components, one vertical and one horizontal.
 
how would I do that?
could you please elaborate..
 

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