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The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate engineering program for someone interested in mathematics and computer science, particularly in complex algorithms and mathematical optimization. Participants explore various engineering degrees and their alignment with the individual's interests and career goals.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for an engineering degree but questions the suitability of such degrees for their interests in algorithms and optimization.
  • Another participant suggests that a degree in applied mathematics, particularly computational, may be more appropriate than an engineering degree.
  • Some participants argue that computer engineering could be the closest engineering field to the individual's interests, though it may still not fully align with their goals.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited math content in various engineering programs, including electrical engineering.
  • One participant mentions that elective courses could allow the individual to pursue their mathematical interests outside of core program requirements.
  • Operations research is proposed as a potential area of study that combines engineering with mathematics and could align with the individual's interests.
  • There is a mention of the varying rigor of computer science engineering programs compared to general computer science degrees, with some programs requiring more math and engineering courses.
  • Concerns are voiced regarding the employability of degrees in engineering physics compared to computer science or electrical engineering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best path forward. There are competing views on whether an engineering degree or a dual major in computer science and mathematics would be more beneficial for the individual's goals.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of elective courses and the varying rigor of programs, indicating that the core curriculum may not fully encompass the individual's mathematical interests.

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So I'm very interested in mathematics and computer science, and I would like to work with complex algorithms and mathematical optimization of code I don't want to be a run-of-the-mill programmer.
Not sure what the exact term is for what I described, anyone knows?

Anyways what engineering degree is best suited for me?

I was looking at the CS engineering program and they had very little math they don't even have multi-variable calculus only linear algebra and single variable.

I was looking at engineering physics and it has the most maths which i like but has a bunch of boring classical physics / modern physics classes. Good thing about it though is that i can pick a Masters in Applied Mathematics branch - System optimization.

Electrical had good math, cs and circuits but i couldn't pick the Applied Math masters after bachelors.

Thanks for reading, any help/tips will be greatly appreciated-
 
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From your post it seems a degree in applied math (specifically computational) would suit you better than an engineering degree.
 
No I want an engineering degree.
 
Yes but from what you have said it really doesn't sound like an engineering degree is for you.
 
ZeroPivot said:
So I'm very interested in mathematics and computer science, and I would like to work with complex algorithms and mathematical optimization of code I don't want to be a run-of-the-mill programmer.
Not sure what the exact term is for what I described, anyone knows?
Computer Science is the field concerned with what you've mentioned above. Many of the mathematics you need for algorithm analysis will be taught in CS courses, so don't rely purely on course prefixes.
 
ZeroPivot said:
No I want an engineering degree.

But an engineering degree will not have you doing what you want. So make your choice.

The closest you can get with engineering is probably computer engineering (specifically a software engineer). However, that will mainly be developing software for a variety of purposes, or even base level programming for processors, etc. From what I know when it comes to optimizing code in general, that's in the computer science field.

Even if you decide on an engineering field to go into, even electrical engineering does not offer much math, as well as the majority of your classes will be at a general level and not teach you the material you want.

You are probably much better off seeking a dual major in CS and Math. Following that you can go on to any grad school for a master's in applied math.
 
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Sentin3l said:
But an engineering degree will not have you doing what you want. So make your choice.

The closest you can get with engineering is probably computer engineering (specifically a software engineer). However, that will mainly be developing software for a variety of purposes, or even base level programming for processors, etc. From what I know when it comes to optimizing code in general, that's in the computer science field.

Even if you decide on an engineering field to go into, even electrical engineering does not offer much math, as well as the majority of your classes will be at a general level and not teach you the material you want.

You are probably much better off seeking a dual major in CS and Math. Following that you can go on to any grad school for a master's in applied math.

There is engineering mathematics, which gives a masters in applied maths.
 
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A lot of schools offer Computer Science Engineering. At my school, UC Davis, CSE is more rigorous and you have to take a bunch of engineering and math classes. Computer Science in the college of Letters and Science is easier to get through because you don't have to take all the math and circuits and stuff.

For your interests it sounds like CSE would be a great way to go.

BTW in my experience Engineering Physics is a tough-to-employ degree compared to CS or EE.
 
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Something that I don't think has been mentioned yet is to pay attention to the elective slots in the programs you are considering.

Just because the math you want to do is not in the core courses of your major, there's no reason you can't take the courses you're really interested in as electives.
 
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Operations research is sometimes in engineering schools - sometimes called Industrial Engineering. It emphasizes probability, probability modelling (stochastic processes), statistics, and optimization, in a context of how to use it to help industry. Might be the kind of thing you are looking for. Tends to be on the mathematical side, and meshes well with CS and/or Math electives. Just a thought. Here are a couple programs:

http://www.orie.cornell.edu/
http://ieor.columbia.edu/
http://www.ieor.berkeley.edu/

jason
 

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