Plano-concave thin lens, checking my result

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The discussion revolves around determining the focal length and power of a plano-concave lens with a given refractive index and radius of curvature. Participants are analyzing the application of the lens maker's equation in this context.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the lens maker's equation and its application, with some questioning the signs of the radii of curvature. There are discussions about arithmetic errors and the interpretation of the results, particularly regarding the focal length and power of the lens.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the correct application of the lens maker's equation, with some participants offering corrections and suggestions for re-evaluating calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the signs used in the equation.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the signs of the radii and the nature of the lens, with some expressing uncertainty about the calculations leading to the focal length and power. There is mention of the need for units in the final answers.

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Homework Statement


Determine the focal length of a plano-concave lens (n=1.5) which has a radius of curvature of 10 cm. What is its power in diopters?


Homework Equations



None given.

The Attempt at a Solution


1/f=(n-1)(1/R_1-1/R_2)=(1/2)(-0.1)=-1/20.
Thus f=5 cm and P=-20 m^(-1).
Is this right?
 
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Hi,

Your method is mostly correct, but you have made some arithmetic errors.
fluidistic said:

Homework Equations



None given.
Really? Because ...

The Attempt at a Solution


1/f=(n-1)(1/R_1-1/R_2)
... this looks like an equation to me :smile:
=(1/2)(-0.1)=-1/20.
Pretty much correct. R2 is considered negative, so -1/R2 would be +1/(20cm).
(Edit: this is wrong, R2 is positive. See my next post.)
Thus f=5 cm and P=-20 m^(-1).
Is this right?
Not quite. You went from 1/f = 1/20 (←correct) to f = 5 :confused:

Try that last bit of algebra again, you are very close.

RB
 
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Redbelly98 said:
Hi,

Your method is mostly correct, but you have made some arithmetic errors.

Really? Because ...... this looks like an equation to me :smile:
I'm not given any tip about what equation to use, therefore I thought I might confuse someone willing to help me if I put a wrong equation in the "relevant equations". But from now on, I must use this section as an attempt to relevant equations. :smile:

Pretty much correct. R2 is considered negative, so -1/R2 would be +1/(20cm).

Not quite. You went from 1/f = 1/20 (←correct) to f = 5 :confused:

Try that last bit of algebra again, you are very close.

RB

From my sketch R_1=infinity and R_2>0. Should I reach 1/f=-1/20?
Ok for the rest, f=20 or -20 depending on my question.
Any ray of light has to pass by the plane part and then the concave part according to my sketch. I'm sure I should reach 1/f=20, but I do not reach this. Should I recheck my calculations? I have (n-1)(-1/R_2) and as R_2>0, I get a negative result. Strange.
Thanks for the help.
 
fluidistic said:
From my sketch R_1=infinity and R_2>0. Should I reach 1/f=-1/20?
You're absolutely correct. For some reason, I read the question as saying "plano-convex". My mistake.

Ok for the rest, f=20 or -20 depending on my question.
It's -20, you were correct about it being negative. Of course, there should be units included when you report the answer.
 
Redbelly98 said:
You're absolutely correct. For some reason, I read the question as saying "plano-convex". My mistake.


It's -20, you were correct about it being negative. Of course, there should be units included when you report the answer.

There's no problem. Thanks for the correction, your time and your help.
As for the units, I think the ones in my first posts are OK.
 
Yes, your first post had correct units but wrong values for f and P.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Yes, your first post had correct units but wrong values for f and P.

I get it, thanks. :smile:
 

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