Plasma Physics PhD program admission

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The discussion revolves around the admission prospects for a plasma physics PhD program, particularly focusing on GPA requirements, alternative majors, and the competitiveness of the field. Participants explore the implications of academic performance and the value of different degrees in relation to career opportunities in plasma physics and related areas.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the minimum GPA needed for admission to a plasma physics grad program, expressing concern over their current GPA of 2.68 and plans to raise it to 3.1/3.2.
  • Another participant notes that plasma physics is competitive and suggests that even lower-tier schools may lead to limited teaching opportunities, recommending an engineering degree instead.
  • A participant questions the assertion that engineering is more competitive than physics, highlighting their interest in plasma physics and potential research options in astrophysics.
  • Concerns are raised about the high attrition rates in science PhD programs, with suggestions to have a backup plan and consider degrees that offer marketable skills.
  • One participant shares their experience of attending a lower-ranked grad school and emphasizes that research experience and connections can outweigh the school's prestige.
  • Another participant agrees that postdoctoral opportunities can enhance a CV after attending a lower-ranked school but reiterates the risks associated with not developing marketable skills.
  • A participant contemplates the possibility of switching to a major with similar coursework and expresses anxiety about their academic situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the importance of GPA, the value of different degrees, and the risks associated with pursuing a PhD in plasma physics. There is no consensus on the best path forward, with multiple competing perspectives remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the variability in PhD program rankings and the potential impact of school choice on career outcomes, but do not resolve the implications of these factors. The discussion reflects differing opinions on the necessity of backup plans and the perceived value of degrees in physics versus engineering.

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Hello, I'm new so I couldn't find a spot to put this in. I was wondering what's the minimum GPA for a plasma physics grad program especially fusion, I don't want good schools, I just want something that is enough to take me further. The thing is I dropped the ball hard my first year of college and have a 2.68 GPA, however, I'm planning to raise that to a 3.1/3.2 by the time I get out. Saying that I get competitive GRE and good research experience would I be able to make to any schools at all? Also, as a backup what other major could I change to if needed (I really don't want to do this but if it is the only choice to not ruin my college career then I will) ? Thanks for your time.
 
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There are a lot of schools that have small research departments in plasma physics. However, plasma physics is a pretty competitive field. Even if you did your PhD at a lower tier school, most professors end up teaching at schools that are lower ranked than their PhD program...so you wouldn't have any option but to teach community college or high school. Just pick an engineering degree and study plasma physics on your own time if you're interested in it.
 
Hercuflea said:
There are a lot of schools that have small research departments in plasma physics. However, plasma physics is a pretty competitive field. Even if you did your PhD at a lower tier school, most professors end up teaching at schools that are lower ranked than their PhD program...so you wouldn't have any option but to teach community college or high school. Just pick an engineering degree and study plasma physics on your own time if you're interested in it.
What did you mean in your last sentence? I thought engineering was more competitive than physics. I also have more options in terms of research, like dark matter, and stuff from astrophysics too, but plasma physics was mostly for my interest in fusion.
 
The attrition rate in most science and math PhD programs is around 50%. You have to have a backup plan in case you do not make it all the way through a PhD, which would be absolutely required if you wanted to get any job in plasma physics. If you get an engineering degree, at some schools (like UMichigan-Ann Arbor) you can study plasma physics and still get a marketable degree like EE or nuclear. If you just do a degree in physics, you risk graduating with a degree of dubious value.
 
My grad school was not top ranked, and all the profs there didn't come from top ranked schools, and many of us are professors at good state universities, private universities, and private colleges. It's not all about the name of the school. My application was judged based on my research, an excellent post-doc appointment, and previous work with student researchers.

Don't aim very high with your GPA. But going to a low ranked school simply means it's a smaller program (grad school PhD rankings are directly proportional to the number of PhDs in physics they award each year). It doesn't mean your PhD is worthless (or even worth less).
 
eri said:
My grad school was not top ranked, and all the profs there didn't come from top ranked schools, and many of us are professors at good state universities, private universities, and private colleges. It's not all about the name of the school. My application was judged based on my research, an excellent post-doc appointment, and previous work with student researchers.

Don't aim very high with your GPA. But going to a low ranked school simply means it's a smaller program (grad school PhD rankings are directly proportional to the number of PhDs in physics they award each year). It doesn't mean your PhD is worthless (or even worth less).

This is true, it is possible to get postdocs to improve your CV after going to a lower ranked school. And I agree your academic placements are mostly about how well connected your advisor is. But it doesn't change the fact that the dropout rate in science PhD programs is often around 40-50%. It's a big risk to go to a smaller school without ever having developed any marketable skills, and then to face the possibility of not completing your PhD program.
 
eri said:
My grad school was not top ranked, and all the profs there didn't come from top ranked schools, and many of us are professors at good state universities, private universities, and private colleges. It's not all about the name of the school. My application was judged based on my research, an excellent post-doc appointment, and previous work with student researchers.

Don't aim very high with your GPA. But going to a low ranked school simply means it's a smaller program (grad school PhD rankings are directly proportional to the number of PhDs in physics they award each year). It doesn't mean your PhD is worthless (or even worth less).
Hercuflea said:
This is true, it is possible to get postdocs to improve your CV after going to a lower ranked school. And I agree your academic placements are mostly about how well connected your advisor is. But it doesn't change the fact that the dropout rate in science PhD programs is often around 40-50%. It's a big risk to go to a smaller school without ever having developed any marketable skills, and then to face the possibility of not completing your PhD program.

I could also just get another major that has similar classes as my current major. I need to talk to my advisor about all this. Thank you so much for answering me, I was having a lot of anxiety do to this issue of mine.
 

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