Please give some help for studyng further

[TheMann]

First, hi to all of you. I want to become a lecturer in a university in the States, the UK or England, but I have some unclear things for reaching this.
So, to be a lecturer do I need a Phd, and do I have do be a professor to teach as a lecturer. So, how can I become a professor? How much time in general I have to study physics (and theoretical physics, because that's my field of interest) alter I graduate high school to become a lecturer?
Another question is how much the average professor make a year and is it low or high for the middle class of people. Thank you a lot!

 

[TheMann]

Will nobody help me??

 

[ModusPwnd]

Generally to be a lecturer in the United States you need a PhD. It requires lots of studying and about 10 years of schooling. A job as a lecturer will get you high pay relative to the population, but many people still do not think its enough and lecturers often complain about salary.

Good luck, that is what I wanted to do too but I couldn't make it.

 

[FalseVaccum89]

If you want to teach in a STEM field at the 'senior institution' (i.e. four-year college/university) level in the States, you have to have a Ph.D. If you just want to teach at the 'junior institution' level (i.e. two-year college/tech school), you generally have to have a Masters. Secondary-level (i.e. high school) instructors have to have a Bachelor's.

 

[ModusPwnd]

"If you just want to teach at the 'junior institution' level (i.e. two-year college/tech school), you generally have to have a Masters."

That is the minimum requirement but the competition is so stiff that I think of a PhD as a de facto requirement. Even then its tough...

 

[FalseVaccum89]

That is the minimum requirement but the competition is so stiff that I think of a PhD as a de facto requirement. Even then its tough...

Not at my community college. :P Seriously, most of the instructors have only a Masters or below. For instance, the English instructor I have now is the only person in the whole English department with the qualifications (a Ph.D., as you said) to teach certain courses.

It's sad.

 

[jtbell]

"If you just want to teach at the 'junior institution' level (i.e. two-year college/tech school), you generally have to have a Masters."

That is the minimum requirement but the competition is so stiff that I think of a PhD as a de facto requirement. Even then its tough...

It probably depends on whether you're in (say) the New York City or Los Angeles area versus North Dakota or Mississippi.

 

[ModusPwnd]

Sure, but how many jobs openings there are also depends on your area. You might be waiting a long time for an opening in N. Dakota where you can possibly land such a job with only a masters. Otherwise the schools that have openings periodically get plenty of PhDs applying.

 

[TheMann]

can you give me an approximate number of earning. 10x a lot guys !

 

[ModusPwnd]

Just out of school I would guess somewhere between 20-40 thousand a year. If you only lecture you will top out at less than if you research too.

 

[FalseVaccum89]

Just out of school I would guess somewhere between 20-40 thousand a year. If you only lecture you will top out at less than if you research too.

Seriously, 20-40 thousand a year won't make you rich, but if you're doing what you love, it ain't all that bad. At least, that's my opinion on the subject. Of course, someone who's trying to provide for a family wouldn't have that luxury, but those of us who are bachelors can afford to be a little more idealistic. :P

 

[Nano-Passion]

Not at my community college. :P Seriously, most of the instructors have only a Masters or below. For instance, the English instructor I have now is the only person in the whole English department with the qualifications (a Ph.D., as you said) to teach certain courses.

It's sad.

In contrast, almost all of my professors had PhDs in my CC (community college).

 

[FalseVaccum89]

In contrast, almost all of my professors had PhDs in my CC (community college).

What region are we talking about here? 'Cause I'm from the South.

 

[Nano-Passion]

What region are we talking about here? 'Cause I'm from the South.

Northeast here.

 

[FalseVaccum89]

Northeast here.

Not hating here (I swear!), but I kinda expected you to say that. From what I've seen, the education up north is a lot better than down here. Unless you go to one of four schools in the South: Clemson, GA Tech, Uni Texas, or VA Tech, you're pretty much behind. :P

 

[Nano-Passion]

Not hating here (I swear!), but I kinda expected you to say that. From what I've seen, the education up north is a lot better than down here. Unless you go to one of four schools in the South: Clemson, GA Tech, Uni Texas, or VA Tech, you're pretty much behind. :P

Hmm, never really thought about it that way. I just sort of thought that the quality of education is the same over all of the states.

 

[FalseVaccum89]

Hmm, never really thought about it that way. I just sort of thought that the quality of education is the same over all of the states.

This is especially untrue in the public education system, though. There are some bright spots (like the German program at my HS being a nationally-ranked department), but for the most part, it's pathetic. I went to a HS in the Midwest for awhile, and it was like a whole different world.

 

[Nano-Passion]

This is especially untrue in the public education system, though. There are some bright spots (like the German program at my HS being a nationally-ranked department), but for the most part, it's pathetic. I went to a HS in the Midwest for awhile, and it was like a whole different world.

Oh cool. Not all the schools are good here either of course. We have a bunch of bad schools, especially in areas of minority (due to lack of funding).

 

[FalseVaccum89]

Oh cool. Not all the schools are good here either of course. We have a bunch of bad schools, especially in areas of minority (due to lack of funding).

Of course. I just meant on the average.

 

[ModusPwnd]

I have worked in various community colleges in Oregon and Arizona as a tutor and at each of them just about every teacher had a PhD. Positions are highly sought after and people fly in from all over to interview for the jobs.

 

[FalseVaccum89]

I have worked in various community colleges in Oregon and Arizona as a tutor and at each of them just about every teacher had a PhD. Positions are highly sought after and people fly in from all over to interview for the jobs.

Quite. Neither Oregon or Arizona are in the Deep South, though. Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of my Southern heritage, but we could do with a better elementary/secondary/post-secondary educational system down here.

 

[MarcZZ]

This may sound goofy, but mastering English would be the first thing I would do to be a lecturer. Then after getting that down pat, continuing with your chosen field. :)

 

[TheMann]

Ok. Thanks.
What do you think of this statement? http://www.pvamu.edu/pages/2750.asp
Which job in the sphere of physics is best well paid (in the academic field, of course)?
:)

 

[ModusPwnd]

That statistic is regarding physicist's pay, not teachers or lecturers. Physicists do research and that is what gets them higher pay.

 

[Nano-Passion]

Ok. Thanks.
What do you think of this statement? http://www.pvamu.edu/pages/2750.asp
Which job in the sphere of physics is best well paid (in the academic field, of course)?
:)

The salary 80,000 a year at $40.00 per hour assumes a 40 hour workweek. Since physicists usually work more than 40 hours, I expect it to be a lower ratio of $/hour.

Other than that, I have nothing to say about the statistics. It isn't like looking up how much a general doctor makes. When you are a general doctor, you work as a doctor and that's that. However, as a physicist there are many different jobs to be done with a large variance of salary and work hours. You can get paid as low as $40,000 as x,y, or z to $100,000 as a professor or some other job. You might work as little as 40 hours or as high as 70 or even 80 hours. You might not even work at all. :)