Please help in integration of Associate Legendre function

In summary, the conversation is about solving an integration problem using two different methods and getting two different answers. The first method involves solving in theta and using the Legendre polynomial P1(cos theta) while the second method involves substitution and using the associated Legendre function P1^1(cos theta). The mistake made was in assuming that P1^1(cos theta) is just the derivative of P1(cos theta). The correct expression for P1^1(cos theta) is (-1)^m(1-cos^2 theta)^{m/2}d^m/d(cos theta)^m P1(cos theta).
  • #1
yungman
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I don't understand why I solve the integration in two different ways and get two different answers!

To find:

[tex]\int_0^{\pi} P_1^1(cos \theta) sin \theta d \theta [/tex]

1) Solve in [itex] \theta[/itex]

[tex] P_1(cos \theta) = cos \theta \;\Rightarrow \; P_1^1(cos \theta)= -sin \theta [/tex]

[tex]\int_0^{\pi} P_1^1(cos \theta) sin \theta d \theta = -\int_0^{\pi}sin^2 \theta d \theta = -\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex]





2) Let [tex]s=cos \theta \;\Rightarrow \; d\theta = \frac{ds}{-sin \theta} [/tex]


[tex]\int_0^{\pi} P_1^1(cos \theta) sin \theta d \theta = -\int _1^{-1} P_1^1(s)ds[/tex]

[tex]P_1(s)=s \;\Rightarrow P_1^1(s)=1[/tex]

[tex]\int_0^{\pi} P_1^1(cos \theta) sin \theta d \theta = -\int _1^{-1} P_1^1(s)ds = -s|_1^{-1} = 2[/tex]

You see the two method yield two answers! I know it should yield the same answer, the book show how to solve the problems in 2) form. Please tell me what did I do wrong.

thanks

Alan
 
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  • #2
Your error is here:
yungman said:
[tex]P_1(s)=s \;\Rightarrow P_1^1(s)=1[/tex]

You have the correct expression for the Legendre polynomial P1(s) but not for the associated Legendre function. The correct expression for the associated Legendre functions is given by

[tex]P_l^m (x) = (-1)^m(1-x^2)^{m/2}\frac{d^m}{dx^m}P_l(x)[/tex]
 
  • #3
D H said:
Your error is here:


You have the correct expression for the Legendre polynomial P1(s) but not for the associated Legendre function. The correct expression for the associated Legendre functions is given by

[tex]P_l^m (x) = (-1)^m(1-x^2)^{m/2}\frac{d^m}{dx^m}P_l(x)[/tex]

Thanks

It must be too late last night. I somehow stuck with the idea that [itex] P_1^1(x) \hbox { is just derivative of } P_1(x)[/itex]! I should have gone to sleep instead of posting this!

Thanks

Alan
 

What is the Associate Legendre function?

The Associate Legendre function is a mathematical function that is used in the study of spherical harmonics and quantum mechanics. It is defined as a special case of the Legendre function and is denoted by Pmn(x), where m and n are non-negative integers and x is a real number between -1 and 1.

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Integrating the Associate Legendre function is important in many areas of science, particularly in physics and engineering. It allows us to solve problems involving spherical symmetry and quantum mechanics, and is used in a variety of applications such as solving differential equations, calculating electric potentials, and modeling gravitational forces.

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Are there any real-world applications of the Associate Legendre function?

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