Point in water wave with greatest upwards speed?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the dynamics of water waves, specifically identifying the point at which the upward speed of the wave is greatest. Participants are comparing this scenario to the motion of a pendulum to clarify their reasoning.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • The original poster attempts to reason through the problem by comparing the wave's motion to that of a pendulum, questioning why a specific point is considered to have the greatest upward speed. Other participants explore this analogy and clarify the positions of maximum speed.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the analogy of the pendulum to understand the behavior of water waves. There is some confusion regarding the correct point of maximum upward speed, with multiple interpretations being discussed. Clarifications have been offered, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express difficulty in visualizing the velocity of water waves at different positions, indicating a potential gap in understanding the wave dynamics compared to the pendulum analogy.

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I chose D because I thought that since it is at the lowest point on the wave, it will move upwards with the greatest speed. But I'm wrong, since the answer is C. Is the answer C because of some time of acceleration from point D to C? If so, then why is the answer not B instead?

Or the water waves here can be compared to the swinging pendulum, where velocity is greatest at its equilibrium position. I have no trouble understanding the pendulum case but I can't picture the velocity of the water waves at their different positions.
 
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The situation is exactly analogous to the pendulum. At B the water surface is rising the fastest (assuming that the entire wave moves with the given speed). If it helps, you can try drawing the position of the wave just a small time later and see how the surface has moved.
 
Orodruin said:
The situation is exactly analogous to the pendulum. At B the water surface is rising the fastest (assuming that the entire wave moves with the given speed). If it helps, you can try drawing the position of the wave just a small time later and see how the surface has moved.
Errm, so you mean that the speed of water wave is fastest at B, not C?
 
toforfiltum said:
Errm, so you mean that the speed of water wave is fastest at B, not C?
No, sorry, that was a typo.
 
If you want to use a pendulum analogy, turn the pendulum sideways. The pendulum comes to a stop at B and D, and is moving fastest at A and C. The question asks for when the water is moving fastest upwards, so the answer is C. The image shows the wave to be shaped like a sin wave.
 

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