Poisson's Ratio Calculation for a Tie Bar Under Tensile Force

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of Poisson's ratio for a tie bar subjected to tensile force, including the determination of related material properties such as Young's modulus (E), shear modulus (G), and bulk modulus (K). Participants explore the relationships between axial strain, lateral strain, and stress in the context of this problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to calculate lateral strain and whether the applied force needs to be converted into strain.
  • Another participant provides calculations for axial strain and lateral strain, suggesting that Poisson's ratio can be calculated as the ratio of lateral strain to axial strain.
  • There is a discussion about the calculation of axial stress from the applied force and the cross-sectional area of the tie bar.
  • One participant questions the derivation of Young's modulus (E) and seeks clarification on the relationship between stress and strain, noting the distinction between the two types of strain (big E and little e).
  • Participants clarify the definitions of stress and strain, emphasizing that E is derived from the slope of the stress-strain curve.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and relationships between stress, strain, and material properties, but there is some uncertainty regarding the specific calculations and derivations of E and the interpretation of the results.

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Some calculations depend on the assumptions made about material properties and the accuracy of the measurements provided. The discussion does not resolve all uncertainties regarding the calculations of E, G, and K.

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My question is a bout this question below (Bear with me people)

A tie bar 25mm in diameter and 1m long extends in length by 1.2mm, when subjected to an axial tensile force of 80KN. If the diameter decreases by 0.007mm, determine the values of poisson's ration, and E,G and K.

My question is how do you solve the Poissions ratio if it is equal to lateral strain divided by Axial strain. Can someone help me to determine the lateral strain and do I need to covert 80KN into strain.

How can I figure out lateral strain that what I really need to know?
 
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johnboy14 said:
My question is a bout this question below (Bear with me people)

A tie bar 25mm in diameter and 1m long extends in length by 1.2mm, when subjected to an axial tensile force of 80KN. If the diameter decreases by 0.007mm, determine the values of poisson's ration, and E,G and K.

My question is how do you solve the Poissions ratio if it is equal to lateral strain divided by Axial strain. Can someone help me to determine the lateral strain and do I need to covert 80KN into strain.

How can I figure out lateral strain that what I really need to know?
axial strain (e) is 1.2mm/1000mm = .0012; lateral strain is .007mm/25mm = .00028; Then poissons ratio is, as you noted, .00028/.0012 = .23.
The 80kN force creates an axial stress of P/A = 80,000N/((pi)(.025)^2/4) = 163MPa; the since stress is eE, solve E = 136GPa, and then G is .23(E) = 37.5MPa.
 
PhanthomJay said:
axial strain (e) is 1.2mm/1000mm = .0012; lateral strain is .007mm/25mm = .00028; Then poissons ratio is, as you noted, .00028/.0012 = .23.
The 80kN force creates an axial stress of P/A = 80,000N/((pi)(.025)^2/4) = 163MPa; the since stress is eE, solve E = 136GPa, and then G is .23(E) = 37.5MPa.


Your going to have to clarify this bit, I am at a loss where you got the figures to solve E. Your answer of 136GPa is right though, I want to clarify to solve E isn't it stress/strain. How did you get this answer.
 
johnboy14 said:
Your going to have to clarify this bit, I am at a loss where you got the figures to solve E. Your answer of 136GPa is right though, I want to clarify to solve E isn't it stress/strain. How did you get this answer.
There are 2 'e''s, big E and little e. Big E usually denotes the modulus of elasticity, in units of force/length^2, and little e denotes the strain, in dimensionless units of length/length. E is the slope of the stress strain curve, that is Stress/Strain = E, as you noted. Since axial stress is Force/Area, calculated above, and e is delta L/L, as was calculated above, solve for E.
 

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