Polarity of a horseshoe shaped solenoid

[Abigaile]

Homework Statement

polarity of a horseshoe shaped solenoid given symbol for power source large line small line.
Current flows through the right end of the horsehoe and out of the left end.

The wire is wrapped in a CW direction if looking at the left end of the magnet.
The wire is wrapped in a ACW direction if looking at the right end of the magnet.

Im confused that the current direction using right hand grip rule and wrap direction of the coil viewed from the ends are giving the opposite conflicting result.

Homework Equations

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The Attempt at a Solution

Assuming conventional current from positive (large line) to negative (small line).

Viewing the right end current direction is ACW so this should be North
Viewing the left end current direction is CW so this should be South

Is this correct or should I consider the rules as if the horseshoe was broken in half like a wishbone?

Thanks..

 

[tiny-tim]

Welcome to PF!

Hi Abigaile! Welcome to PF!

polarity of a horseshoe shaped solenoid …
Current flows through the right end of the horsehoe and out of the left end.

The wire is wrapped in a CW direction if looking at the left end of the magnet.
The wire is wrapped in a ACW direction if looking at the right end of the magnet.

Im confused that the current direction using right hand grip rule and wrap direction of the coil viewed from the ends are giving the opposite conflicting result.

No.

Wrap your right hand around the left end of the solenoid, so that your fingers are curling the same way as the current …

your thumb then points into the solenoid.

Now slide your hand all the way round the solenoid to the other end …

your thumb now points out of the solenoid …

isn't that what you expect, one end north and the other end south? ​

 

[Abigaile]

Hi Abigaile! Welcome to PF!


No.

Wrap your right hand around the left end of the solenoid, so that your fingers are curling the same way as the current …

your thumb then points into the solenoid.

Now slide your hand all the way round the solenoid to the other end …

your thumb now points out of the solenoid …

isn't that what you expect, one end north and the other end south? ​

Hi Tim

does that mean left end is south and right end is north?

 

[tiny-tim]

Yes!

(or the other way round … i can't remember )