Polarized Cylinder: Solving Griffiths Problem 4.13 with Laplace's Equation

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The discussion focuses on solving Griffiths Problem 4.13 regarding a long polarized cylinder using Laplace's equation. The electric field inside the cylinder is derived, showing that the field outside can be expressed as \(\vec{E}(\vec{r}) = \frac{a^2}{2\epsilon_{0}s^2} \left[2(\vec{P}\cdot\vec{\hat{s}})\hat{s}-\vec{P}\right]\). The potential inside and outside the cylinder is calculated using cylindrical coordinates, leading to the conclusion that the potential must be continuous across the boundary. The participant raises questions about the treatment of bound charges and the uniformity of the electric field.

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Homework Statement


Griffiths Problem 4.13
A very long cylinder, of radius a, carries a uniform polarization P perpendicular to its axis. Find the electric field inside the cylinder. Show that the field outside the cylinder can be expressed in the form
\vec{E}(\vec{r}) = \frac{a^2}{2\epsilon_{0}s^2} \left[2(\vec{P}\cdot\vec{\hat{s}})\hat{s}-\vec{P}\right]


2. The attempt at a solution

Now i was wondering if i could use Laplace's equation here... since there is not volume charge.

If i were to use this equation to solve for the potnetial

V(\vec{r}) = \frac{1}{4 \pi\epsilon_{0}} \oint_{S} \frac{\sigma_{b}}{r} da' + \int_{V} \frac{\rho_{b}}{r} d\tau'

Suppose we were solving for points inside then bound surface charge is zero and the volume charge cannot be zero

SInce the polarization is perpendicular to the axis, then the polarization is +P for theta from 0 to pi
but for theta from pi to 2pi then the polarization is -P correct??

But how can the bound volume charge be non zero if the polarization is constant??
 
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well i tried to solve it using Laplace's equation

the solution in cylindrical coords is

V(s,\phi) = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} (A_{k}s^k+B_{k}s^{-k}) (C_{k}\cos k\phi + D_{k} \sin k\phi)

Since \sigma_{b} = P\cos\phi

Obviosuly Dk is zero

For the inside we need the potential to be finite so
V_{in} (s,\phi) = \sum_{k=0)}^{\infty} A_{k} s^k \cos k\phi

V_{out} (s,\phi} = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} B_{k} s^{-k} \cos k\phi

We need V_{in} (a,\phi) = V_{out} (a,\phi)
Using the above conidtion we get A_{k} a^{2k} = B_{k}

we also need the potnetial to be smooth across the boundary so
\frac{d V_{out}}{ds}\right|_{s=a} - \frac{d V_{in}}{ds}\right|_{s=a} = \frac{-\sigma}{\epsilon_{0}}

\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \left(-kB_{k} a^{-k-1} - kA_{k}s^{k-1}\right) \cos k\phi = \frac{\sigma}{\epsilon_{0}} = \frac{P\cos \phi}{\epsilon_{0}}

obviously k =1

and we get A = \frac{P}{2\epsilon_{0}}

so i get
V_{in} (s,\phi) = \frac{P}{2\epsilon_{0}} s \cos \phi

E = - \nabla V = -\frac{P}{2\epsilon_{0}} (\cos \phi \hat{s}-\sin\phi \hat{\phi}the answer is supposed to be uniform though.. not have a phi dependance...

where di i go wrong?

Is there a way to do this using Gauss Law because after all the bound charge can be treated like a real charge right??
 
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Because you are in 2D, div E=0 inside the cylinder, so the only bound charge is a surface charge sigma~P.s. Use your first equation to apply the BCs that
V is continuous and Delta E~sigma.
 

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