Polarized Raman Spectroscopy: Understanding the Magic Angle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the "magic angle" in polarized Raman spectroscopy, specifically addressing the angles associated with the electric fields of laser light in this context. Participants explore the definitions and implications of the magic angle, comparing it to its use in other fields such as nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Kasra questions whether the magic angle in polarized Raman spectroscopy is 90° or 54.7°.
  • Some participants suggest that the magic angle relates to the difference in electric fields of two different incident light polarizations.
  • There is a mention that the term "magic angle" is familiar from NMR, where it is approximately 54°, while a perpendicular angle is noted as 90° for Raman spectroscopy.
  • One participant challenges the notion that a difference in electric fields can be described as an angle.
  • Another participant clarifies that when light is linearly polarized, the electric field can indeed be associated with a specific angle, relevant to various spectroscopic techniques.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of phase difference, which may have angular units, suggesting a potential distinction in terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition and implications of the magic angle in the context of polarized Raman spectroscopy, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the relationship between electric fields and angles, as well as the potential confusion with terminology used in different spectroscopic contexts.

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Dear friends
I have a question regarding to polarized Raman spectroscopy. When we are talking about parallel and perpendicular electric field of the laser, is the magic angle 90° or 54.7°?
I'd be grateful if you could answer me as soon as possible.
Best wishes
Kasra
 
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Maybe you can explain this in more detail. I know the term "magic angle" from nuclear resonance, but not from Raman spectroscopy. However, it may be easy to figure out what is meant in that context.
 
Dear DrDu

The magic-angle in Raman spectroscopy or Linear Dicroism is the difference in the electric field of two different incident light polarizations.

Thanks
 
A difference of electric fields hardly has the unit of an angle?
 
oh actually it has
when you linearly polarise the light, you are rotating and adjusting its electric field to a specific angle
This is the base of techniques such as linear dichroism, circular dicroism, polarised Raman spectroscopy and polarised IR spectroscopy.
 
I've heard the term "magic angle" for NMR, and is around 54°. For Raman a perpendicular angle would be 90°.
 
I guess so
Thank you very much
 
Smerdiis said:
Dear DrDu

The magic-angle in Raman spectroscopy or Linear Dicroism is the difference in the electric field of two different incident light polarizations.

Thanks

I think Smerdiis meant to say phase difference which would indeed have angular units.

Claude.
 

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