Polynomial to represent a linear rectangle element

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The discussion focuses on the representation of a linear rectangle element using the equation u(x,y) = c_1 + c_2 x + c_3 y + c_4 xy, which defines a surface over the rectangle rather than the rectangle itself. The values u1 to u4 correspond to the functional values at the rectangle's corner points, forming a plane through these points. The derivation of these equations is typically found in introductory finite element analysis texts. Additionally, the conversation touches on the relationship between the equations for a triangular element and basic analytic geometry, highlighting how they represent planes in three dimensions. The discussion concludes with a query about deriving the equation of a line from the surface equations, noting that while this is usually possible, exceptions exist for vertical lines.
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Folks,

I have attached a picture illustrating the labelling of the linear reactangle element which can be represented by the following equation

##u(x,y)=c_1+c_2 x +c_3 y +c_4 xy## (1)

##u_1=u(0,0)=c_1##
##u_2=u(a,0)=c_1+c_2a##
##u_3=u(a,b)=c_1+c_2a+c_3b+c_4ab##
##u_4=u(0,b)=c_1+c_3b##

I don't really understand these equations. I mean, how is equation (1) derived to represent a rectangle and how is ##u_i## for ##i=1..4## derived?

Thanks
 

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The function u(x,y) does not represent the rectangle itself. u(x,y) represents a surface which is defined over the area bounded by the rectangle. The functional values u1 - u4 are the values of u(x,y) at the corner points of the rectangle. The surface produced by u(x,y) will be a plane passing through the points u1 - u4.

The derivation of the element equations are given in most elementary intro to finite element analysis texts.
 
SteamKing said:
The function u(x,y) does not represent the rectangle itself. u(x,y) represents a surface which is defined over the area bounded by the rectangle. The functional values u1 - u4 are the values of u(x,y) at the corner points of the rectangle. The surface produced by u(x,y) will be a plane passing through the points u1 - u4.

The derivation of the element equations are given in most elementary intro to finite element analysis texts.

OK. Taking a slight step back and looking at the triangular element case which can be desribed by the following expression

##f(x,y)=a+bx+cy##. What branch of mathematics are we looking at here, geometry? IM am interested to know how this simple equation was derived to represent a plane surface...

Thanks
 
The equation a + bx + cy = 0, which corresponds to f(x, y) = 0, represents a line in two dimensions (the x-y plane).

The equation z = f(x, y) = a + bx + cy represents a plane in three dimensions. This is pretty basic analytic geometry.
 
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Mark44 said:
The equation a + bx + cy = 0, which corresponds to f(x, y) = 0, represents a line in two dimensions (the x-y plane).

So can one determine the equation of a line ##y=mx+c'## from above equation? If we re-arrange the above equation we get

##y=-a/c -bx/c##...?

thanks
 
bugatti79 said:
So can one determine the equation of a line ##y=mx+c'## from above equation?
Usually, but not always. Equations that represent vertical lines can't be put in this form.
bugatti79 said:
If we re-arrange the above equation we get

##y=-a/c -bx/c##...?

thanks
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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