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The discussion revolves around expressing the imaginary part of the complex number (u + iv) raised to the power of -3, given that the modulus of u + iv is 3. Participants are exploring the implications of this modulus condition and its relation to polynomial expressions in terms of the variable v.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to derive the imaginary part of (u + iv)^-3 and question the implications of the modulus condition. There is discussion about the nature of u and v as real numbers and the representation of (u + iv) in the complex plane. Some participants express confusion regarding the problem statement and the correct interpretation of the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between (u + iv) and its inverse, but there is still uncertainty about how to express the imaginary part in the desired form.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential typographical errors in the problem statement, leading to confusion about whether the expression should be (u + iv)^-3 or (u + iv)^3. This ambiguity is affecting the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that u and v are real numbers for which u + iv has modulus 3. Express the imaginary part of (u + iv)^−3 in terms of a polynomial in v.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


|u+iv|=3 then sort(u^2+i^2) = 3 then
u = 3 and v=0 or u=0 and v=3(0+3i)^-3

i swear i am missing something with these equations we've only being doing a topic on roots but wow it's different what I've been seeing in class
 
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ivan_x3000 said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that u and v are real numbers for which u + iv has modulus 3. Express the imaginary part of (u + iv)−3 in terms of a polynomial in v.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


|u+iv|=3 then sort(u^2+i^2) = 3 then
u = 3 and v=0 or u=0 and v=3(0+3i)^-3

i swear i am missing something with these equations we've only being doing a topic on roots but wow it's different what I've been seeing in class
If |u + iv| = 3, then u + iv is an arbitrary point on a circle of radius 3, centered at the origin in the complex plane. What effect does subtracting 3 from u + iv have on this circle?
 
ivan_x3000 said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that u and v are real numbers for which u + iv has modulus 3. Express the imaginary part of (u + iv)−3 in terms of a polynomial in v.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


|u+iv|=3 then sort(u^2+i^2) = 3 then
u = 3 and v=0 or u=0 and v=3
Those are two solutions, but there are infinitely many more.

By the way, is there a typo? The imaginary part of ##(u+iv) - 3## is simply ##v##, which is already a polynomial in ##v##.
 
jbunniii said:
Those are two solutions, but there are infinitely many more.

By the way, is there a typo? The imaginary part of ##(u+iv) - 3## is simply ##v##, which is already a polynomial in ##v##.
The way I'm interpreting the problem, u + iv - 3 doesn't represent just a single point.
 
Mark44 said:
The way I'm interpreting the problem, u + iv - 3 doesn't represent just a single point.

Yes definitely a type it was meant to be (u+iv)^3
 
ivan_x3000 said:
Yes definitely a type it was meant to be (u+iv)^3
In the OP you changed it to (u + iv)-3 and above you have (u + iv)3. Which is it?

Really, you need to be more careful. If we don't know what the problem is, we can't help you.
 
Sorry it is (u+iv)^-3 my bad
 
OK, as hint I would recommend starting with
$$(u+iv)(u-iv) = |u+iv|^2$$
Rearrange this to get a formula for ##(u+iv)^{-1}## and use what you know about the modulus.
 
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Thank you so much that is a great hint haha
 
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@jbunniii can you please explain?
So (u + iv)^-1 = (u-iv)/9 then how do i solve it?
 
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krnysus said:
@jbunniii can you please explain?
So (u + iv)^-1 = (u-iv)/9 then how do i solve it?

Can you really not see how to get ##(u + i v)^{-3}## if you know ##(u + iv)^{-1}##?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Can you really not see how to get ##(u + i v)^{-3}## if you know ##(u + iv)^{-1}##?

(U + iv)^-3 = (u - iv)/9(u + iv)^2 ? I seriously have no clue how to express the imaginary part in terms of polynomial in v...
 
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$$(u+iv)^{-3} = [(u+iv)^{-1}]^3 = \left(\frac{u-iv}{9}\right)^3 = ?$$
 

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