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The discussion revolves around finding the real solutions to the polynomial equation X³ + X² - 10X + 8 = 0. Participants are exploring methods of factoring and verifying roots, as well as addressing potential errors in the original poster's approach.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to verify their methods of solving the polynomial equation, questioning the correctness of their factorization and the identification of roots. Some participants suggest checking polynomial division and reconsidering the factorization of X² + X - 8.

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Participants are actively engaged in clarifying the original poster's methods, with some confirming that both methods presented for solving the equation are valid. However, there is an ongoing examination of the accuracy of the factors derived, and some participants express uncertainty about the original poster's calculations.

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There is mention of a potential error in the polynomial expression, where the original poster mistakenly wrote X² + X - 8 instead of X² + 2X - 8. Additionally, the original poster identifies themselves as a beginner and expresses a desire for further assistance in understanding the material.

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Trying to ask my method of doing the question is correct or not? Try check is there any mistake please? I am beginner.
The Question
Find the real solutions to each of the following questions.
(a) X³+X²-10X+8=0My attempt at a solution

X³+X²-10X+8=0
f(1)=1³+1²-10(1)+8
f(1)=0
X=1
X-1=0 (one of the factor)

X³+X²-10X+8=(X-1)(X²+kX-8)
Compare the coefficient X²
X²=kX²-X²
1=k-1
2=k

X²+X-8=(X-2)(X+4)
The factors are (X-1)(X-2)(X+4)
**(From here start my working wonder correct or wrong)***
1st Method of answering
(X-1)(X-2)(X+4)=0
X-2=0, X-1=0, X+4=0
X=2, X=1, X=-4 #
2nd Method of answering
f(X)=(X-1)(X-2)(X+4)
f(X)=0
(X-1)(X-2)(X+4)=0
X-2=0, X-1=0, X+4=0
X=2, X=1, X=-4 #

The 1st Method of answering or 2nd is correct?
 
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X²+x-8=(x-2)(x+4) ?

You should try to learn to perform division of polynomials.
 
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TheDanny, exactly what course are you studying?
 
Both methods are correct, it's just implied the f(x) = 0 = (x-1)(x-2)(x+4)
 
TheDanny said:
Trying to ask my method of doing the question is correct or not? Try check is there any mistake please? I am beginner.
The Question
Find the real solutions to each of the following questions.
(a) X³+X²-10X+8=0


My attempt at a solution

X³+X²-10X+8=0
f(1)=1³+1²-10(1)+8
f(1)=0
X=1
X-1=0 (one of the factor)
Yes, it is true that f(1)= 0 and so x= 1 is a root and x-1 is a factor of x3+ x2- 10x+ 8

X³+X²-10X+8=(X-1)(X²+kX-8)
Compare the coefficient X²
X²=kX²-X²
1=k-1
2=k

X²+X-8=(X-2)(X+4)
?? I was under the impression that -2x+ 4x= 2x, not X. This can't possibly be true. Did you consider the possibility that x2+x-8= 0 has NO rational roots? If that is true, then you might consider either completing the square or using the quadratic equation to solve x2+ x- 8= 0.

[/quote]The factors are (X-1)(X-2)(X+4)[/quote]
NO, they aren't. That's your error

**(From here start my working wonder correct or wrong)***
1st Method of answering
(X-1)(X-2)(X+4)=0
X-2=0, X-1=0, X+4=0
X=2, X=1, X=-4 #
2nd Method of answering
f(X)=(X-1)(X-2)(X+4)
f(X)=0
(X-1)(X-2)(X+4)=0
X-2=0, X-1=0, X+4=0
X=2, X=1, X=-4 #

The 1st Method of answering or 2nd is correct?
 
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malawi_glenn said:
X²+x-8=(x-2)(x+4) ?

You should try to learn to perform division of polynomials.

He accidentally wrote X²+x-8 instead of X²+2x-8. Other than that everything is correct.

TheDanny, your solution is fine (except for leaving out the 2 in the polynomial). Both ways of answering seem fine to me.
 
learningphysics said:
He accidentally wrote X²+x-8 instead of X²+2x-8. Other than that everything is correct.

TheDanny, your solution is fine (except for leaving out the 2 in the polynomial). Both ways of answering seem fine to me.

Yeah i found that i accidentally wrote X²+x-8 without the 2 inside.
HallsofIvy, maybe you right over here that
X²+2X-8=(X-2)(X+4), or i should write

X²+2X-8=0
(X-2)(X+4)=0?

I study Mathematics T that is A-level or Pre-U i think. Higher School Certificate (HSC). The HSC was the precursor to the GCE A levels in the UK, and is still the name of the pre-university examination in some states in Australia.
Future Maths is hard or? I wonder my teacher tell me that not all can learn only some who is talented only. I will need all your help next time, thanks.
 
Don't you just hate when that happens?

Here I was thinking "It's so hot, I'll have a nice gin and tonic before I turn in. Next thing I know, it's 8:00 AM. I'd probably better not have a gin and tonic now!

Yes, if x2+ 2x- 8= 0 then (x-2)(x+4)= 0 and the solutions are x= 2 and x= -4. You can, op, of course, check that by just doing the arithmetic:
22[/aup]+ 2(2)-8= 4+ 4- 8= 0 and (-4)2+ 2(-4)+ 8= 16- 8-8= 0.
 
hmm

HallsofIvy,
this is mine error?
[/quote]The factors are (X-1)(X-2)(X+4)[/quote]
NO, they aren't. That's your error


Should it be The factors are (X-1),(X-2),(X+4)? put commas between each factor?
 
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TheDanny said:
Should it be The factors are (X-1),(X-2),(X+4)? put commas between each factor?

I think so -- If you were to list the factors of 12 you wouldn't say 1*2*3*4*6*12, you'd say 1,2,3,4,6,12.
 

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