Population drop word problem -- help with the Algebra please

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The discussion centers on solving a word problem involving the decay of a bacterial population due to a noxious substance, where every 10 minutes, one-tenth of the remaining bacteria are killed. The initial population is 10^6, and the goal is to determine how long it takes for 70% of the bacteria to die. Participants suggest using an exponential decay model, specifically y = p(0.9)^x, where p is the initial population and x is the number of 10-minute intervals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the decay factor (0.9) instead of the fraction killed (1/10) and highlights the need to correctly set up equations to find the time required for the desired population reduction. Ultimately, the correct approach involves recognizing that the remaining population after each period can be modeled exponentially.
  • #31
opus said:
Every ten minutes, a tenth of the bacteria are KILLED.
At 10 minutes: a tenth of 10^6 bacteria are killed. This leaves 100,000 remaining.
No. If a tenth are killed, that is 100,000 killed and 1,000,000-100,000 = 900,000 remaining.
At 20 minutes : a tenth of the 100,000 bacteria are killed. This leaves 10,000 remaining.
A tenth of 900,000 are killed. That is 90,000 killed and 900,000 - 90,000 = 810,000 remaining.
At 30 minutes: a tenth of 810,000 are killed. That is 81,000 killed and 810,000 - 81,000 = 729,000 remaining.
...
So the approach of calculating the killed at each step requires that you keep subtracting the killed from the remaining living at each time step.
It's easier to directly calculate the living by multiplying the remaining living at each step by 0.9. Then you don't have to keep doing a subtraction:
10^6 * 0.9 = 900,000
900,000 * 0.9 = 810,000
810,000 * 0.9 = 729,000
...
After ##n*10## minutes, there are ##10^6*0.9^n## remaining.
 
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FactChecker said:
No. If a tenth are killed, that is 100,000 killed and 1,000,000-100,000 = 900,000 remaining.A tenth of 900,000 are killed. That is 90,000 killed and 900,000 - 90,000 = 810,000 remaining.
At 30 minutes: a tenth of 810,000 are killed. That is 81,000 killed and 810,000 - 81,000 = 729,000 remaining.
...
So the approach of calculating the killed at each step requires that you keep subtracting the killed from the remaining living at each time step.
It's easier to directly calculate the living by multiplying the remaining living at each step by 0.9. Then you don't have to keep doing a subtraction:
10^6 * 0.9 = 900,000
900,000 * 0.9 = 810,000
810,000 * 0.9 = 729,000
...
After ##n*10## minutes, there are ##10^6*0.9^n## remaining.
From his comment of post #28 and #30, opus may finally understand.
 
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FactChecker said:
No. If a tenth are killed, that is 100,000 killed and 1,000,000-100,000 = 900,000 remaining.A tenth of 900,000 are killed. That is 90,000 killed and 900,000 - 90,000 = 810,000 remaining.
At 30 minutes: a tenth of 810,000 are killed. That is 81,000 killed and 810,000 - 81,000 = 729,000 remaining.
...
So the approach of calculating the killed at each step requires that you keep subtracting the killed from the remaining living at each time step.
It's easier to directly calculate the living by multiplying the remaining living at each step by 0.9. Then you don't have to keep doing a subtraction:
10^6 * 0.9 = 900,000
900,000 * 0.9 = 810,000
810,000 * 0.9 = 729,000
...
After ##n*10## minutes, there are ##10^6*0.9^n## remaining.

I really need to work on my reading comprehension! Thanks for pointing that out to me.
 
  • #34
opus said:
I really need to work on my reading comprehension! Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Most of Reading Comprehension for Mathematics is very, very literal.
 
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