Population model: dP/dt = k sqrtP

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The discussion revolves around a population model described by the differential equation dP/dt = k sqrt(P), where the population P of fish in a lake is influenced by birth and death rates that are inversely proportional to the square root of P. Participants are tasked with finding the function P(t) given the initial condition P(0) = C.

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  • Participants discuss integration techniques and the manipulation of the equation to find P(t). There are attempts to clarify algebraic steps and identify errors in the original poster's solution. Questions are raised about the presence of coefficients and the correct substitution of variables.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the algebraic steps involved in solving the differential equation. Some participants offer corrections to the original attempts, while others assert that they have arrived at a correct solution. There is no explicit consensus on the final form of P(t), but multiple perspectives on the solution process are being explored.

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Participants note potential algebraic mistakes and the importance of correctly applying initial conditions. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the mathematical reasoning behind the solution without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that when a certain lake is stocked with a population P of fish, the birth and death rates \alpha and \beta are inversely proportional to \sqrt{P} , so that

\frac{dP}{dt} = k \sqrt{p}

Find P(t) if P(0)=C

The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{dP}{\sqrt{p}} = k dtintegrate2 \sqrt{P} = k t + ASub 0 for t C for XA=2 \sqrt{C}

sub back in

2 \sqrt{P} = 2t+4 \sqrt{c}

P = (2 t k+4 \sqrt{C})^2
 
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2 \sqrt{P} = 2t+4 \sqrt{c}
P = (2 t k+4 \sqrt{C})^2

There are a few small problems with this, mostly just technical. Such as the second to last line is missing a k, and the we substitute C for P; there is no X.

However, not so trivial is where did the coefficient of 2 for \sqrt{P} go? How did the 2 in 2kt show up randomly? Your mistakes are algebraic and occur after your line "sub back in"

Thus your solutions should be

P(t) = \displaystyle\left( \frac{1}{2} kt + \sqrt(C) \right) ^2
 
I ended up solving it correctly

I ended up solving it correctly (2 min before it was due)

the answer is

\frac{(kt+2\sqrt{C})^2}{4}
 
Tom McCurdy said:

Homework Statement



Suppose that when a certain lake is stocked with a population P of fish, the birth and death rates \alpha and \beta are inversely proportional to \sqrt{P} , so that

\frac{dP}{dt} = k \sqrt{p}

Find P(t) if P(0)=C


The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{dP}{\sqrt{p}} = k dt


integrate


2 \sqrt{P} = k t + A


Sub 0 for t C for X


A=2 \sqrt{C}
You were fine up to here.

sub back in

2 \sqrt{P} = 2t+4 \sqrt{c}
No, you just said 2\sqrt{P}= kt+ A. If, now, A= 2\sqrt{C}, then 2\sqrt{P}= kt+ 2\sqrt{C}.
Square both sides: 4 P= (kt+ 2\sqrt{C})^2
P= \frac{kt+ 2\sqrt{C})^2}{4}
which is what you say you eventually got

P = (2 t k+4 \sqrt{C})^2
 

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