Position of glider on an air track

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The discussion revolves around the motion of an air-track glider attached to a spring, which oscillates after being released from rest. Participants explore the amplitude of the oscillation and the glider's position at a specific time, utilizing the equation for harmonic motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of a phase constant in the equation of motion, questioning whether it is appropriate to set it to zero based on the initial conditions of the glider's release.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the reasoning behind the choice of phase constant, noting the importance of the glider's initial position and velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of how different initial conditions would affect the phase constant.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the glider being released from different positions relative to the equilibrium point and the absence of initial velocity. There is an acknowledgment that additional information would be needed to determine the phase constant in certain scenarios.

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Homework Statement


An air-track glider is attached to a spring. The glider is pulled to the right and released from rest at t=0.00 s. It then oscillates with a period of 11.1 s and a maximum speed of 44.7 cm/s. What is the amplitude of the oscillation? (answer A= 7.90e-01 m)
What is the glider's position at t=0.555 s?

Homework Equations



x(t)= Acos (\omegat+\phi)

The Attempt at a Solution



so i solved this question already and got it right by assuming that the phase constant to be zero and solving for x. I was wondering if there was another way to solve for the position??
 
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brunettegurl said:

Homework Statement


An air-track glider is attached to a spring. The glider is pulled to the right and released from rest at t=0.00 s. It then oscillates with a period of 11.1 s and a maximum speed of 44.7 cm/s. What is the amplitude of the oscillation? (answer A= 7.90e-01 m)
What is the glider's position at t=0.555 s?

Homework Equations



x(t)= Acos (\omegat+\phi)

The Attempt at a Solution



so i solved this question already and got it right by assuming that the phase constant to be zero and solving for x. I was wondering if there was another way to solve for the position??


No, that's the only way to do it.
Do you see why it is correct to set the phase constant equal to zero here?
 
i'm assuming it had to with the fact that when the glider was released it waas not at it's equilibrium point..is that a correct assumption??
 
brunettegurl said:
i'm assuming it had to with the fact that when the glider was released it waas not at it's equilibrium point..is that a correct assumption??

It's part of it but that's not sufficient.
We have to know that it was released from the right of its equilibrim position *and* that it was released with no initial velocity (it was not kicked one way or another). That tells us that it starts with x equal to the maximum amplitude, so x(t) is a pure cosine curve, with no phase constant.

For example, it it had been released from rest but at the left of the equilibrium position, we would have needed to use pi (or -pi) for the phase constant. If it had had an initial velocity, the phase constant wold be some other value.
 
if it was released from rest at the left of the equilibrium how can we determine if it is pi or -pi without any additional information??..and thank you for answering my questions :))
 
brunettegurl said:
if it was released from rest at the left of the equilibrium how can we determine if it is pi or -pi without any additional information??..and thank you for answering my questions :))


You are welcome.

I said pi or -pi because it makes no difference (since a difference of 2pi in the phase constant does not change anything to a cosine function). Any calculation done with pi or -pi would give the same answer.
 
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ok thanks :))
 

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