Possible outcomes for rolling 2 dice twice with same sum.

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The discussion revolves around calculating outcomes and probabilities when rolling two dice twice. For part (a), the total outcomes for two successive rolls is determined to be 36 squared, resulting in 1,296 possibilities. In part (b), the probability of both dice showing the same value on the second roll is calculated as 1/36. Part (c) explores the probability of achieving the same sum on both rolls, with various combinations listed for each possible sum. The conversation concludes with a reminder to consider all combinations, including (2, 2), when calculating probabilities.
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Hello:

I am wondering if I am doing the following correctly. This is the problem:

(a) how many different outcomes are possible when a pair of dice are rolled 2 successive times?

roll once with 2 dice, 36, so roll twice, 36*36.

(b) what's the probability that each die shows same value on second roll as first row?

for 1 dice, there are 6 cases of the same value, so it's 1/6. For both die, it's (1/6)*(1/6) = 1/36.

(c) what's the probability that the sume of the two dice is the same on both rolls?

For this you have the following possibilities:

(1 1) (2 2) (3 3) (4 4) (5 5) (6 6)
(1 2) (1 3) (1 4) (1 5) (1 6)
(2 3 ) (2 4) (2 5) (2 6)
(3 4) (3 5) (3 6)
(4 5) (4 6)
(5 6)

The possible sums are : 2 (1 1)
4: (2 2) (1 3)
5: (1 4) (2 3)
6: (3 3) (1 5) (2 4)
7: (3 4) (2 5)
8: (4 4) (2 6) (3 5)
9: (3 6) (4 5)
10: (5 5) (4 6)
11: (5 6)
12 (6 6)

So, the probability of rolling a (1 1) both times is (1/6)^4.
Rolling a 4 both times is (1/6)^4 + ((1/6)^4))*2 (because you can have 1 3 or 3 1)
Rolling a 5 is (1/6)^4 * (2) * 2
and so on?
 
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Hello bodensee9! :smile:

(a) and (b) look good.
bodensee9 said:
So, the probability of rolling a (1 1) both times is (1/6)^4.
Rolling a 4 both times is (1/6)^4 + ((1/6)^4))*2 (because you can have 1 3 or 3 1) …

That's basically the correct method …

but what happened to 2 2?
 
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