Potassium iodide and thyroid protection

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The discussion centers on the use of potassium iodide (KI) for thyroid protection in the event of a nuclear accident, exploring why potassium iodide is preferred over sodium iodide or lithium iodide. Participants examine the pharmacological implications, safety concerns, and chemical properties of these iodides.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why potassium iodide is used instead of sodium iodide or lithium iodide, noting that alkali metals can give away one electron.
  • One participant mentions that lithium iodide is pharmacologically active and toxic in large doses, while potassium iodide is less deliquescent than sodium iodide, potentially allowing for better storage.
  • Concerns are raised about sodium iodide's implications for individuals with high blood pressure, although another participant argues that the sodium content in the recommended dosage of KI is negligible.
  • A participant calculates the molar mass of KI and discusses the implications of using lithium iodide, questioning its potential toxicity based on blood lithium levels.
  • Another participant explains that radioactive iodine is sequestered by the thyroid, and taking non-radioactive iodine can prevent radioactive iodine from being concentrated in the thyroid.
  • Participants discuss the normal ranges of lithium in the blood, noting that the acceptable levels for those on lithium medication differ from those not on treatment.
  • One participant suggests that potassium iodide is the gold standard due to its established efficacy and minimal side effects in medical contexts, while also mentioning the importance of stability and bioavailability in drug formulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the use of potassium iodide versus sodium iodide and lithium iodide, with no clear consensus reached on the reasons for preferring potassium iodide.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations regarding the pharmacological activity of lithium, the stability of sodium iodide, and the implications of sodium intake for individuals with high blood pressure, but these aspects remain unresolved.

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Hi,
Does anyone know the reason why we use potassium iodide for thyroid protection in case of nuclear accidental event, and not sodium iodide, or lithium iodide ? (as alkali metals can give away one electron)
Thanks.
 
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You can't use lithium iodide because lithium is pharmacologically active (it's used to treat bipolar disorder, among other things), and toxic in large doses. As for sodium iodide, I'm not really sure, but KI is much less deliquescent than NaI, so it might keep longer in suboptimal storage conditions.
 
Isn't sodium also a potential problem for those with the high blood pressure?
 
Borek said:
Isn't sodium also a potential problem for those with the high blood pressure?
The recommended dosage for adults of KI as a "thyroid blockade" is 130 mg per day. If you switch out the potassium for sodium, the total amount of sodium would be somewhere around 10mg, which is essentially negligible.
 
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Good point.
 
About toxicity of lithium :

If I do not make mistakes, the molar mass of KI is 39.10 + 126.90 = 166 g/mol.

Giving 130 mg of KI means giving 130 x E-3 / 166 = 7.83 x E-4 mol of KI and so, the same amount of iodine.

I then understand that 7.83 x E-4 mol of iodine are recommended for blocking the thyroid absorption.

Suppose now that we use lithium iodide. Giving the required amount of iodine means to give 7.83 x E-4 mol of lithium, that is (roughly) 0.8 mmol.

Well, I read that the normal range for lithium in blood is between 0.6 and 0.8 mmol/L (of blood).

So, giving a pill containing 0.8 mmol doesn’t seem to be toxic (as the amount of blood is +- 5 L).

But maybe lithium does not rapidly metabolize, so that the amount in blood will dangerously increase…

Is it correct ?
 
Radioactive iodine would be sequestered to the thyroid because the thyroid uses iodine to make active thyroid hormone.
If a nuclear war were to happen a lot of iodine might be ingested. It would then be concentrated in the thyroid and kill it by radiation. (By sister had a treatment like this for a thyroid cancer.)
By taking large amounts of non-radioactive iodine, either the transport of sequestration mechanisms for iodine are flooded with non-radioactive iodine and any subsequently ingested radioactive iodine is not concentrated in the thyroid.
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Andrew1949 said:
Well, I read that the normal range for lithium in blood is between 0.6 and 0.8 mmol/L (of blood).
This is the acceptable level of lithium in the blood of patients being given lithium medication for treatment of bipolar disorder. The normal range of lithium for individuals not specifically on lithium treatment is in the parts per billion range.
 
TeethWhitener said:
The normal range of lithium for individuals not specifically on lithium treatment is in the parts per billion range.

ppb would be surprisingly low, tap water contains ppm levels of lithium, three orders of magnitude higher.
 
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Well, I couldn't find normal ranges for blood lithium for a "normal" person ("Mr/Ms Everyone") but I accept that 0.8 mmol/L would be a real upper limit for that normal person, and something not to be done routinely when safer alternatives exist. So, bye bye lithium.

On the other hand, it seems that normal range for potassium is 3 to 5 mmol/L (http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/2172316-overview) and more than 7 mmol/L is dangerous (http://www.healthline.com/health/high-potassium-hyperkalemia)

Giving 7.83 x E-4 mol of KI is giving 7.83 x E-4 mol of K ; clearly this dosage is not dangerous. This seems to me to explain enough why potassium is used and not lithium.

OK. One part of my previous question is solved. But why not sodium ? Normal value for sodium is about 140 mmol/L. So, giving a pill containing 7.83 x E-4 mol of Na looks much safer than giving a pill containing 7.83 x E-4 mol of K...
 
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Borek said:
ppb would be surprisingly low, tap water contains ppm levels of lithium, three orders of magnitude higher.
I was going based on this link:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body
But of course it could be wrong.

Again, for sodium, the only thing I can think is shelf life. Sodium iodide is highly deliquescent, whereas potassium iodide isn't. But I don't know if that's the only reason.
 
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Potassium iodide is the gold standard. Meaning in medicine: it has done well in this medical context before, with the least amount of side effects. So why mess around with it? That is the answer. Physicians are the ultimate pragmatists. Ad hoc experimentation is not always safe. Good previous experience counts enormously. NB: excess iodine can do bad things to people(see link). And the whole idea here is get excess safe iodine into the thyroid and its input pathways quickly.

Sodium iodide is common in multi-mineral tablets. So, both are acceptable in that sense. But the pill dosage is really low, ~150μg. Instead of me going over everything here is good link:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3976240/
 
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Not sure this is the case with KI, but in many cases when formulating a drug, the identity of the counterion can have important effects on the stability and bioavailability of the drug: http://www.pharmtech.com/salt-selection-drug-development
 
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