Potential Divider Problem: Calculating Vout and Thevenin Source Impedance

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The discussion revolves around a potential divider problem involving two setups, where the original poster seeks assistance with calculating output voltage (Vout) and Thevenin source impedance. The context includes the use of a potentiometer and considerations of voltage sources.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to split a potentiometer into two resistors to achieve a specific output voltage, questioning the treatment of a dual voltage source. They also seek clarification on calculating Thevenin source impedance and the impact of a multimeter's impedance on Vout.
  • Some participants explore potential configurations and ratios for the resistors in the divider, while others express uncertainty about the underlying principles.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some exploring potential solutions and others requesting further clarification on specific aspects. There is a recognition of varying interpretations of the voltage divider setup, and some productive insights have been shared regarding the output voltage calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses frustration with the complexity of the problem and the lack of examples for non-grounded potential dividers. There is also an acknowledgment of the need for assistance with specific calculations related to Thevenin's theorem and voltage division.

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potentiometer question

hey there

i hate coming online to ask for help but i am well and truly stuck!

attached is an image containing 2 potential divider setups.
i have a few questions about them, and any help would be appreciated!

a) for the first setup, A, how could the 10k pot be split into 2 resistors to give a Vout of 3v? i am confused by the +-15v source. can i treat this as if the +15v is 30v and the -15 is 0v? making the 2 resistors 9k and 1k? if not, how else is it done; i can find absolutely no examples of potential diviers which aren't grounded?

b) how do i calculate the thevenin source impedance of the potentiometer set to give 3v? I am familliar with thevenin's theorem but don't fully understand the question. as far as i understand, thevenins thereom is used to reduc circuits down to just a voltage source, a resistor and a load; here I'm unsure how this would be done.

c)finally, how do i calculate Vout for the setup B when the effective impedance of the multi meter measuring Vout is reduced to 3.3K? my initial thought was a simple voltage division equation but this came unstuck when i realized that R1 = 0, therefore that doesn't work. I am out of ideas after that!

like i said, i'd really really appreciate some help on this!

many thanks
 

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i've spent all day thinking about the above problems to no avail. can no one help me?

thank you
 
i think i might be on to something, maybe someone can confirm if this is right, and if it is eplaiin why.

i think it goes +15v into R1 = 5k into r2 = 7.5 k and -15V out. then the output measuered between R1 and R2 = 3v. I've been messing around on a simulator and it works, but i don't know why!

anyone?
 
i9 realize I've been being a fool.
think the output voltage can vary anywhere between -15V and +15V; a range of 30V.
An output of +3V is therefore 18V above the lower -15 level and 12V below the +15 level. In other words, the potential divider must divide the 30V total in the ratio 12/18. The resistance ratio must be the same; 4 ohm and 6 ohm

part a) done!

some help on b and c would be great still though
 
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