Potential energy and electrostatic forces

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The discussion revolves around deriving the potential energy due to electrostatic forces for a uniformly charged sphere with a specified radius and total charge. Participants express confusion about the derivation process and the relevant formulas, indicating a focus on electrostatics.

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  • The original poster seeks guidance on how to begin the derivation, expressing frustration with the lack of detailed explanations in their textbook and notes.
  • Some participants suggest breaking the problem down into smaller components, such as considering thin spherical shells and integrating their contributions to potential energy.
  • Others question the understanding of the formulas related to potential energy and force between charges, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering suggestions for approaches while others express uncertainty about the foundational concepts. There is no explicit consensus, but a few participants have provided hints and guidance on how to start the derivation process.

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Some participants note that the original poster may be missing key formulas related to potential energy in electrostatics, which are expected to be covered in their textbook. There is also an indication of imposed homework rules that may limit the type of assistance provided.

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show that the potential energy due to electrostatic forces of uniformly charged sphere of radius R and total charge Q is:

3Q^2/5R


i don't even know how to start??
i really don't want to hate physics:frown: :frown: :frown:


i was reading through in my textbook and they only gave us the formula, and they didn't say anything about how to derive it.
In the notes, the professor did NOT say anything about that...


HELP,
give me hints.. :)

HELP!

Thanks :)
Joe
 
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1. Carve the sphere up into thin spherical shells of thickness = dr and radius r (0<r<R)
2. Calculate the potential energy between one such shell and all (the rest) of the sphere - do all parts of the "rest of the sphere" contribute a potential at the position of the chosen shell ?
3. Integrate over all the shells in the sphere.

Make a start, and see if you can take it all the way.
 
the problem is that i don't know the formula of the potential energy when we are dealing with charges :(

i know E=mgh where mg is the force and h is the distance.
If we put F (coulomb force) to be the force in this problem, and r? to be the distance, and then we integrate it??it still doesn't make any sense? :(

Thanks for the help again :)
 
A_I_ said:
the problem is that i don't know the formula of the potential energy when we are dealing with charges :(
This is covered in your text. Look it up. Do you know the equation for the force between charges ?
 
yes F = kQ1Q2/r where K is the coulomb constant :)

But Still i didnt find the formula :(

any hint? :)
 
A_I_ said:
yes F = kQ1Q2/r where K is the coulomb constant :)
Actually, F = kQ1Q2/r^2 is the equation for the force. The equation for the energy is given by
E = kQ1Q2/r
But Still i didnt find the formula :(

any hint? :)
The best advice I can give you is start at the beginning of this chapter (Electrostatics) and study it carefully solving all the worked examples along the way.

PS : What is your textbook ?
 

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