Potential energy of earth and gravity

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The discussion centers on calculating the gravitational potential energy of a mass m at a height equal to Earth's radius R. The initial calculation yielded mgR/4, while the correct answer, as indicated by the teacher, is mgR/2. The discrepancy arises from differing assumptions about where the potential energy is defined as zero; the teacher assumes it is at infinity, while the original poster assumes it is at the Earth's surface. The correct formula for gravitational potential energy in this context is U = -Gm1m2/R, highlighting the importance of understanding gravitational variations with distance.

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Assume Earth's radius R and there is a mass m. We put that mass in height of R from the Earth's surface. I want to calculate it's potential energy.

I calculated it and got mgR/4 but my teacher said the answer is mgR/2 . Why my answer is wrong?

I just calculated the gravity in the height of R and applied it to e = mgh
 
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Hi Bandarigoda! :smile:
Bandarigoda said:
I calculated it and got mgR/4 but my teacher said the answer is mgR/2 . Why my answer is wrong?

I just calculated the gravity in the height of R and applied it to e = mgh

?? :confused:

Show us your full calculations. :smile:

(and at that distance you can't treat gravity as constant)
 
Either answer can be right or wrong, depending on where the potential energy is supposed to be zero. Unless you fix that, the discussion is meaningless.
 
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You are assuming zero potential energy at the surface of Earth while your teacher's doing it at infinity. Both answers are correct but at these distances infinity is usually used.
Your teacher is using the formula:
$$U= \frac {Gm_1m_2}{R}$$ [edited]
Assuming U=0 at R=##\infty##
 
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ahhh now i understand …

you've correctly found the different values of g(r) (as a function of radial distance r),

but then you've used mgh (= mg(r - R)) for potential energy,

instead of -MmG/r :wink:
 
Oh thank you very much guys. I got it now.
 
Enigman said:
Your teacher is using the formula:
$$U= \frac {Gm_1m_2}{R^2}$$
Assuming U=0 at R=##\infty##

for the record: that should be
##U= -\frac {Gm_1m_2}{R}## :wink:
 
Uncaffeinated brain fart.
:redface:
 

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