Potential in case of concentric shells program

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The discussion revolves around the potential of three concentric spherical metallic shells with different charge densities. The original poster seeks clarification on how to apply the potential formula to each shell and what is meant by the potential of each shell.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the meaning of potential for each shell and the appropriate values to use in the potential formula. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the presence of multiple shells on the potential calculations.

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Participants have provided affirmations regarding the uniformity of potential within conductors and clarified the application of the potential formula for each shell. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the potential formula and its application due to the presence of multiple shells, as well as the uniform potential within conductors. The original poster's question about the meaning of potential at the surface of each shell is a focal point of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Three concentric spherical metallic shells A , B and C of radii a , b and c (a<b<c)have charge densities σ,−σandσ respectively . If the shells A and C are at the same potential then the relation between a , b and c is

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##V##=##\frac{Q}{4πε0r}##

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I know the solution
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but I want to know what does it mean potential of shell A or potential of shell B,I mean what value I shall put in place of r in the formula
##V##=##\frac{Q}{4πε0r}## for shell A,B and C?
Does potential of shell A or potential of shell B etc mean potential at the surface of shell A ,B respectively ?
 
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Yes.
You mislead yourself by coloring in the volume of A and the volume between B and C.

There is no formula ##V = \frac{1}{4πε_0r}##; typo :biggrin: ?

But the r in ##V = \frac{Q}{4πε_0r}## is a for A, b for B and c for C :smile: .

And the potential at a position ##\vec r## is the energy per Coulomb it takes to move a test charge from infinity (Where V = 0) to the position ##\vec r##
 
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BvU said:
Yes.
Were you answering this
gracy said:
Does potential of shell A or potential of shell B etc mean potential at the surface of shell A ,B respectively ?
 
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BvU said:
But the r in ##V = \frac{Q}{4πε_0r}## is a for A, b for B and c for C :smile: .
Note that you can't use this for A due to the presence of B and C, nor for B due to the presence of C.
You see that in the solution at the first ##\therefore##

I've always wanted to use that symbol ##\therefore## ! this is the first time :cool:
 
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gracy said:
Does potential of shell A or potential of shell B etc mean potential at the surface of shell A ,B respectively ?
Yes.

In electrostatics, the potential of a conductor is uniform throughout the conductor.
 
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SammyS said:
potential of a conductor is uniform throughout the conductor.
Did you mean potential of a conductor is same anywhere inside the conductor as well as on the surface of the conductor?
 
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Did you mean potential of a conductor is same anywhere inside the conductor as well as on the surface of the conductor?
gracy said:
Did you mean potential of a conductor is same anywhere inside the conductor as well as on the surface of the conductor?
Everywhere in the conducting material itself, as well as on the surfaces.
 
Easy to remember: a conductor conducts. If there would be a potential difference, charge would be conducted until there's no more potential difference.
 
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