Potential of a Coalescing Water Droplet

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The discussion revolves around the electric potential of water droplets, specifically focusing on the scenario where 1000 smaller spherical droplets coalesce into a larger droplet. Participants are exploring the implications of this coalescence on the electric potential, questioning how to define and calculate the potential of the droplets in relation to their sizes and charges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion regarding the definition of electric potential for a body versus a point charge. There are attempts to relate the potentials of the smaller and larger droplets, with some suggesting to consider the potential at the surface of the droplets. Questions arise about the appropriate values to use for radius and charge in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting that the potential can be evaluated at different points, such as the surface of the droplets. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the volumes of the droplets and their respective radii, with some noting a specific ratio mentioned in a textbook.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the smaller droplets have a uniform radius and charge, while the larger droplet's radius needs to be determined based on the volume relationship. There is a reference to a specific answer in a textbook that contrasts with the ongoing calculations and discussions.

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Homework Statement


1000 spherical water droplets, each of radius rand each carrying a charge q, coalesce to form a single bigger spherical drop. If v is the electric potential of each droplet and V that of bigger drop, then find \fracV/v


Homework Equations


As water is a good conductor of electricity so charges on it will be distributed on the surface.So water droplet can be regarded as spherical shell
Potential due to spherical shell is kq/r. where k is constant and q is charge on the shell and r is the distance between the centre of spherical shell and point on which P is to be calculated

The Attempt at a Solution


I am unable to understand what is meant by the potential of water droplet.I know potential at a point due to point charge,system of charge and due to continuous charge distribution.But they are calculated at point,I mean we calculate potential at point due to different charge distributions.How can we calculate potential of a body!

I want to know what is meant by( " v is the electric potential of each droplet" )this line of the question.
In thus problem any specific point is not mentioned.
I started like this
potential of smaller drop kq/r
potential of bigger drop k1000q/r
What value of should we take.
 
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Satvik Pandey said:
I am unable to understand what is meant by the potential of water droplet.I know potential at a point due to point charge,system of charge and due to continuous charge distribution.But they are calculated at point,I mean we calculate potential at point due to different charge distributions.How can we calculate potential of a body!

I want to know what is meant by( " v is the electric potential of each droplet" )this line of the question.
In thus problem any specific point is not mentioned.
I started like this
potential of smaller drop kq/r
potential of bigger drop k1000q/r
What value of should we take.
Note that r was used as the radius of the small droplets.
You can take the potential at any distance larger than the radius of the big droplet. The ratio would be 1000.
Or you can take the potential at the surface of a droplet, than you have to find R, the radius of the bigger one.
But it would be of more sense to determine the ratio of the potential energies.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Note that r was used as the radius of the small droplets.
You can take the potential at any distance larger than the radius of the big droplet. The ratio would be 1000.
Or you can take the potential at the surface of a droplet, than you have to find R, the radius of the bigger one.
But it would be of more sense to determine the ratio of the potential energies.

ehild

but v/V is equal to 100 as given in book (answer)
 
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Satvik Pandey said:
but v/V is equal to 100 as given in book (answer)

You mean V/v = 100 , don't you?

That means the ratio of the surface values of the potential. What is the radius of the big drop that consists of 1000 droplet, with respect to r, the radius of the small ones?


ehild
 
Yes I mean V/v.
So basically I need to consider surface values of potential.
Let the radius of smaller droplet be 'r' and bigger droplet be 'R'.
Vol. of smaller droplet=4/3*pi*r^3
Vol. of bigger droplet=4/3*pi*R^3
Vol.of smaller drop/Vol. of bigger droplet=1/1000
so r^3/R^3=1/1000 or R=10r.
 
What is the ratio of the surface potentials then?

ehild
 
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It is 100(V/v)
 
Well done! :smile:

ehild
 

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