Power Dissipated - Kirchhoff's Rule

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the power dissipated in a variable resistor (RL) within a circuit that includes a constant resistor (R0) and a power supply voltage (ε). Participants are tasked with expressing the power as a function of RL and finding the conditions for maximum power dissipation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the resistors and the power formula, questioning the correct substitution of variables and the setup of the equations. There is confusion regarding the definitions of R0 and RL, as well as the application of Kirchhoff's rules.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants clarifying definitions and attempting to derive the correct expressions for power. Some have suggested changes to the formula based on the circuit configuration, while others are exploring the implications of their calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which requires them to derive a mathematical expression and find its maximum without providing complete solutions. There is a circuit diagram referenced, but not included in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Using symbols, write PRL, the power dissipated in RL as a function of RL (your other symbols are R0 and the power supply voltage epsilon both of which are constant. 10V and 100ohms) and then take the derivative of this function with respect to RL for which PRL has an extreme value, in this case a maximum.


Homework Equations


V = IR


The Attempt at a Solution


So here's what I was thinking...
PRL = VI where I = V/R so replace that with Epsilon2/R0
Then plug in the constant values 10V and 100ohms to get PRL = 1W dRL

Not sure where to go from here though as the derivative gives zero. What am I missing? Did I do it all incorrectly? Thanks in advance!
 
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Pete_01 said:
… Not sure where to go from here though as the derivative gives zero.

Hi Pete_01! :smile:

You're confusing R0 with RL.

I haven't worked out what R0 is (what is it? and what is the context?), but clearly P will depend on RL, either instead of or as well as R0. :wink:
 
Hi Tim,

R0 is a constant resistor of value 100ohms.
 
But where is it, and what's RL ? :confused:
 
Oops, sorry. RL is a variable resistor that was changed in value from 10-1280ohms. I attached the circuit picture as well.

Thanks
 

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Pete_01 said:
Oops, sorry. RL is a variable resistor that was changed in value from 10-1280ohms. I attached the circuit picture as well.

Thanks

ohh! they're two resistors in series! :rolleyes:

ok, then your formula I = V/R0 should be changed to … ? :wink:
 
So it would be I = V/(R0+RL)?

Then your left with PRL = 102/(R0+RL)d(RL) Correct?
 
Pete_01 said:
So it would be I = V/(R0+RL)?

Yes. :smile:
Then your left with PRL = 102/(R0+RL)d(RL) Correct?

what's d ? :confused:

and what formula are you using for PRL ?
 
So I used P=VI where I is substituted in from above. 10 is the voltage.

PRL = VI = V*(V/R) = V2/(R0+RL)

It said to find RL where it is maximum I need to take the derivative of the function with respect to RL and set the derivative equal to 0, then solve for RL.
 
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Pete_01 said:
So I used P=VI where I is substituted in from above. 10 is the voltage.

But 10 isn't the voltage across RL, is it? :wink:

(and that's not the quickest formula, anyway)
 
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Ah yes, it is not. What is the best way to solve this?
 
  • #12
erm :redface:

… one of Kirchhoff's rules ? :smile:
 

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