Power Voltage Current: Ohm's Law & Decreasing Power Loss

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between power, voltage, and current, particularly in the context of Ohm's Law and the implications for power loss during electricity transmission. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of these concepts, including how power companies manage voltage and current to minimize losses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between voltage, current, and power loss, referencing Ohm's Law (V = I x R) and the power formula (P = V x I).
  • Another participant explains that power loss is related to current (P_loss = I²R), noting that transferring electricity at high voltage and low current reduces power loss due to lower current levels.
  • A subsequent reply suggests that power companies can control both voltage and current, indicating that high voltage leads to low current, which is beneficial for reducing losses.
  • Another participant questions the extent of control power companies have, suggesting they can only operate in high voltage/low current or low voltage/high current scenarios, referencing the ideal transformer equations.
  • One participant argues that the scenarios being mixed involve different equations for different situations, clarifying that while power companies aim to minimize losses by using higher voltages, the voltage supplied to homes remains constant (e.g., 120V).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the control power companies have over voltage and current, as well as the implications of varying voltage on power delivery. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how these variables interact in practical applications.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about the constancy of resistance and the specific operational parameters of power companies. The relationship between voltage, current, and power loss is not fully resolved, with various scenarios presented without consensus.

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hello, I'm new here =D
dunno if this is the right section to ask this
I'm really confused about power voltage and current

according to ohm's law, V = I x R
therefore if we increase voltage, the current will increase

but according to the power formula, P = V x I
they say increasing voltage to deliver electricity to houses, will decrease the current therefore decreasing the power loss along the way
as the resistance across the wire will not change (at least not significant) therefore it still follow the ohm's law

how can this be possible?

thanks
 
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From Ohm's law and P=VI

Powerloss,P=I2R. Usually they transfer electricity at high voltage/low current. Low current=> Low powerloss in a given resistance.
High Current=> High powerloss in a given resistance.

It's more feasible to transfer it at high voltage/low current. It doesn't mean that because V is high will mean that I will be low, power companies could just transfer it at high voltage/high current. But that won't be good.
 
hmm that means that the power company can control both the voltage and the current transferred?

that does make sense =D

thanks
 
I'm not too sure of the extent to which they can control it, I think it's only high voltage/high current OR low voltage/high current they can transfer it in. Ignore the high voltage/high current part.

You could also check the formula for the ideal transformer where

\frac{V_s}{V_p}=\frac{I_i}{I_s}

Where Ip=Current in the primary circuit
Is= Current in secondary circuit.
Vp=Voltage in the primary circuit
etc.

The ratio of Vs/Vp is constant such that if Vs is high it means that Is would be low and so forth
 
You're just mixing scenarios, that's all. They are different equations for different situations.

If you have a light and you vary the voltage (assuming you don't burn it out), you can use both equations and you'll find that you get more current and therefore more power as the voltage increases.

But the power company doesn't want to vary the voltage at your house, they want to keep it at 120, but design a system that loses less along the way. So the power is fixed as a matter of practicality. So when they design the transmission lines and can choose the voltage they want, they pick a higher voltage to lower the amperage and decrease the IR2 losses. But that doesn't mean the power increases: at your house, you still get 120V.
 

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